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From: Roger Quadros <rogerq@ti.com>
To: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
Cc: gregkh@linuxfoundation.org, balbi@ti.com,
	dan.j.williams@intel.com, peter.chen@freescale.com,
	jun.li@freescale.com, mathias.nyman@linux.intel.com,
	linux-usb@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-omap@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 1/9] usb: hcd: Introduce usb_start/stop_hcd()
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2015 13:38:32 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <550AB538.7090806@ti.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1503181538170.1497-100000@iolanthe.rowland.org>

On 18/03/15 21:49, Alan Stern wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Mar 2015, Roger Quadros wrote:
> 
>> To support OTG we want a mechanism to start and stop
>> the HCD from the OTG state machine. Add usb_start_hcd()
>> and usb_stop_hcd().
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Roger Quadros <rogerq@ti.com>
> 
> There are a few problems in this proposed patch.
> 
>> +int usb_start_hcd(struct usb_hcd *hcd)
>> +{
>> +	int retval;
>> +	struct usb_device *rhdev = hcd->self.root_hub;
>> +
>> +	if (hcd->state != HC_STATE_HALT) {
>> +		dev_err(hcd->self.controller, "not starting a running HCD\n");
>> +		return -EINVAL;
>> +	}
>> +
>> +	hcd->state = HC_STATE_RUNNING;
>> +	retval = hcd->driver->start(hcd);
>> +	if (retval < 0) {
>> +		dev_err(hcd->self.controller, "startup error %d\n", retval);
>> +		hcd->state = HC_STATE_HALT;
>> +		return retval;
>> +	}
>> +
>> +	/* starting here, usbcore will pay attention to this root hub */
>> +	if ((retval = register_root_hub(hcd)) != 0)
>> +		goto err_register_root_hub;
> 
> If the host controller is started more than once, you will end up
> unregistering and re-registering the root hub.  The device core does
> not allow this.  Once a device has been unregistered, you must not try
> to register it again -- you have to allocate a new device and register
> it instead.

Understood.

> 
> Also, although you call the driver's ->start method multiple times, the
> ->reset method is called only once, when the controller is first 
> probed.  It's not clear that this will work in a situation where the HC 
> and the UDC share hardware state; after the UDC is stopped it may be 
> necessary to reset the HC before it can run again.

Yes, good point.
> 
> It might be possible to make this work, but I suspect quite a few 
> drivers would need rewriting first.  As another example of the problems 
> you face, consider how stopping a host controller will interact with 
> the driver's PM support (both system suspend and runtime suspend).

Right. This needs more work than I thought.
> 
> It would be a lot simpler to unbind the host controller driver
> completely when switching to device mode and rebind it when switching
> back.  I guess that is the sort of heavy-duty approach you want to
> avoid, but it may be the only practical way forward.

So you mean directly calling usb_add/remove_hcd() from the OTG core?
I don't see any issues with that other than it being a heavy-duty operation
like you said and hope that it doesn't violate the OTG spec timing.

Looking at Figure 5-3: "HNP Sequence of Events (FS)" of the OTG 2.0 spec
we have about 150ms (X10) to switch from B-Device detected A connect (b_wait_acon state)
to driving bus reset (b_host state). I don't think this should be an issue in modern SoCs
but I'm not very sure.

In any case I can migrate to the add/remove hcd approach to simplify things.

cheers,
-roger

  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-03-19 11:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-03-18 13:55 [RFC][PATCH 0/9] USB: OTG Core functionality Roger Quadros
2015-03-18 13:55 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/9] usb: hcd: Introduce usb_start/stop_hcd() Roger Quadros
     [not found]   ` <1426686963-11613-2-git-send-email-rogerq-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-18 19:49     ` Alan Stern
     [not found]       ` <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1503181538170.1497-100000-IYeN2dnnYyZXsRXLowluHWD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-18 21:41         ` Tony Lindgren
2015-03-19  1:51           ` Alan Stern
     [not found]             ` <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1503182147410.32267-100000-pYrvlCTfrz9XsRXLowluHWD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-19  2:38               ` Tony Lindgren
2015-03-19 11:38       ` Roger Quadros [this message]
2015-03-19 14:17         ` Alan Stern
     [not found]         ` <550AB538.7090806-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-20  6:32           ` Peter Chen
2015-03-20  9:49             ` Roger Quadros
2015-03-19  1:46   ` Peter Chen
2015-03-18 13:55 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/9] usb: gadget: add usb_gadget_start/stop() Roger Quadros
     [not found]   ` <1426686963-11613-3-git-send-email-rogerq-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-19  3:30     ` Peter Chen
2015-03-19 10:14       ` Roger Quadros
     [not found]         ` <550AA18F.2000106-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-19 14:09           ` Li Jun
     [not found]             ` <20150319140859.GA7950-KgLukfWpBlCctlrPMvKcciBecyulp+rMXqFh9Ls21Oc@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-19 14:50               ` Roger Quadros
2015-03-20  7:18                 ` Peter Chen
2015-03-20  9:46                   ` Roger Quadros
2015-03-20 11:08                     ` Roger Quadros
     [not found]                       ` <550BFFA9.7050400-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-21  1:30                         ` Peter Chen
2015-03-18 13:55 ` [RFC][PATCH 3/9] usb: otg: add OTG core Roger Quadros
2015-03-19  3:40   ` Peter Chen
2015-03-19 10:18     ` Roger Quadros
2015-03-20  7:45       ` Peter Chen
2015-03-20  9:18         ` Roger Quadros
2015-03-20  9:32           ` Peter Chen
     [not found]   ` <1426686963-11613-4-git-send-email-rogerq-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-19  8:26     ` Li Jun
2015-03-19 10:30       ` Roger Quadros
     [not found]         ` <550AA556.1030301-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-19 14:41           ` Li Jun
2015-03-19 14:54             ` Roger Quadros
2015-03-18 13:55 ` [RFC][PATCH 4/9] usb: otg: hub: Notify OTG fsm when A device sets b_hnp_enable Roger Quadros
2015-03-18 13:55 ` [RFC][PATCH 5/9] usb: hcd: adapt to OTG Roger Quadros
2015-03-18 13:56 ` [RFC][PATCH 6/9] usb: gadget: udc: " Roger Quadros
2015-03-18 13:56 ` [RFC][PATCH 7/9] usb: dwc3: adapt to OTG core Roger Quadros
2015-03-18 13:56 ` [RFC][PATCH 8/9] usb: otg-fsm: Remove unused members in struct otg_fsm Roger Quadros
2015-03-19  3:46   ` Peter Chen
2015-03-19 10:20     ` Roger Quadros
2015-03-18 13:56 ` [RFC][PATCH 9/9] usb: otg-fsm: Add documentation for " Roger Quadros
2015-03-18 17:37 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/9] USB: OTG Core functionality Tony Lindgren
     [not found]   ` <20150318173726.GS31346-4v6yS6AI5VpBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-19 10:31     ` Roger Quadros

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