From: Roger Quadros <rogerq@ti.com>
To: Peter Chen <peter.chen@freescale.com>
Cc: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
gregkh@linuxfoundation.org, balbi@ti.com,
dan.j.williams@intel.com, jun.li@freescale.com,
mathias.nyman@linux.intel.com, linux-usb@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-omap@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 1/9] usb: hcd: Introduce usb_start/stop_hcd()
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2015 11:49:08 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <550BED14.4020104@ti.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150320063249.GE7537@shlinux2>
On 20/03/15 08:32, Peter Chen wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 01:38:32PM +0200, Roger Quadros wrote:
>> On 18/03/15 21:49, Alan Stern wrote:
>>> On Wed, 18 Mar 2015, Roger Quadros wrote:
>>>
>>>> To support OTG we want a mechanism to start and stop
>>>> the HCD from the OTG state machine. Add usb_start_hcd()
>>>> and usb_stop_hcd().
>>>>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Roger Quadros <rogerq@ti.com>
>>>
>>> There are a few problems in this proposed patch.
>>>
>>>> +int usb_start_hcd(struct usb_hcd *hcd)
>>>> +{
>>>> + int retval;
>>>> + struct usb_device *rhdev = hcd->self.root_hub;
>>>> +
>>>> + if (hcd->state != HC_STATE_HALT) {
>>>> + dev_err(hcd->self.controller, "not starting a running HCD\n");
>>>> + return -EINVAL;
>>>> + }
>>>> +
>>>> + hcd->state = HC_STATE_RUNNING;
>>>> + retval = hcd->driver->start(hcd);
>>>> + if (retval < 0) {
>>>> + dev_err(hcd->self.controller, "startup error %d\n", retval);
>>>> + hcd->state = HC_STATE_HALT;
>>>> + return retval;
>>>> + }
>>>> +
>>>> + /* starting here, usbcore will pay attention to this root hub */
>>>> + if ((retval = register_root_hub(hcd)) != 0)
>>>> + goto err_register_root_hub;
>>>
>>> If the host controller is started more than once, you will end up
>>> unregistering and re-registering the root hub. The device core does
>>> not allow this. Once a device has been unregistered, you must not try
>>> to register it again -- you have to allocate a new device and register
>>> it instead.
>>
>> Understood.
>>
>>>
>>> Also, although you call the driver's ->start method multiple times, the
>>> ->reset method is called only once, when the controller is first
>>> probed. It's not clear that this will work in a situation where the HC
>>> and the UDC share hardware state; after the UDC is stopped it may be
>>> necessary to reset the HC before it can run again.
>>
>> Yes, good point.
>>>
>>> It might be possible to make this work, but I suspect quite a few
>>> drivers would need rewriting first. As another example of the problems
>>> you face, consider how stopping a host controller will interact with
>>> the driver's PM support (both system suspend and runtime suspend).
>>
>> Right. This needs more work than I thought.
>>>
>>> It would be a lot simpler to unbind the host controller driver
>>> completely when switching to device mode and rebind it when switching
>>> back. I guess that is the sort of heavy-duty approach you want to
>>> avoid, but it may be the only practical way forward.
>>
>> So you mean directly calling usb_add/remove_hcd() from the OTG core?
>> I don't see any issues with that other than it being a heavy-duty operation
>> like you said and hope that it doesn't violate the OTG spec timing.
>>
>> Looking at Figure 5-3: "HNP Sequence of Events (FS)" of the OTG 2.0 spec
>> we have about 150ms (X10) to switch from B-Device detected A connect (b_wait_acon state)
>> to driving bus reset (b_host state). I don't think this should be an issue in modern SoCs
>> but I'm not very sure.
>>
>
> It is not related toadd/remove hcd, it is the time from receiving PCD
> to issue BUS_RESET, the Linux stack can't satisfy OTG spec (150ms) due
> to there are some de-bounce waitings.
OK.
>
>> In any case I can migrate to the add/remove hcd approach to simplify things.
>>
>
> It should be no problem, we use it more than 1 years.
>
Good to know this.
cheers,
-roger
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-03-20 9:49 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-03-18 13:55 [RFC][PATCH 0/9] USB: OTG Core functionality Roger Quadros
2015-03-18 13:55 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/9] usb: hcd: Introduce usb_start/stop_hcd() Roger Quadros
[not found] ` <1426686963-11613-2-git-send-email-rogerq-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-18 19:49 ` Alan Stern
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1503181538170.1497-100000-IYeN2dnnYyZXsRXLowluHWD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-18 21:41 ` Tony Lindgren
2015-03-19 1:51 ` Alan Stern
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1503182147410.32267-100000-pYrvlCTfrz9XsRXLowluHWD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-19 2:38 ` Tony Lindgren
2015-03-19 11:38 ` Roger Quadros
2015-03-19 14:17 ` Alan Stern
[not found] ` <550AB538.7090806-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-20 6:32 ` Peter Chen
2015-03-20 9:49 ` Roger Quadros [this message]
2015-03-19 1:46 ` Peter Chen
2015-03-18 13:55 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/9] usb: gadget: add usb_gadget_start/stop() Roger Quadros
[not found] ` <1426686963-11613-3-git-send-email-rogerq-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-19 3:30 ` Peter Chen
2015-03-19 10:14 ` Roger Quadros
[not found] ` <550AA18F.2000106-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-19 14:09 ` Li Jun
[not found] ` <20150319140859.GA7950-KgLukfWpBlCctlrPMvKcciBecyulp+rMXqFh9Ls21Oc@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-19 14:50 ` Roger Quadros
2015-03-20 7:18 ` Peter Chen
2015-03-20 9:46 ` Roger Quadros
2015-03-20 11:08 ` Roger Quadros
[not found] ` <550BFFA9.7050400-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-21 1:30 ` Peter Chen
2015-03-18 13:55 ` [RFC][PATCH 3/9] usb: otg: add OTG core Roger Quadros
2015-03-19 3:40 ` Peter Chen
2015-03-19 10:18 ` Roger Quadros
2015-03-20 7:45 ` Peter Chen
2015-03-20 9:18 ` Roger Quadros
2015-03-20 9:32 ` Peter Chen
[not found] ` <1426686963-11613-4-git-send-email-rogerq-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-19 8:26 ` Li Jun
2015-03-19 10:30 ` Roger Quadros
[not found] ` <550AA556.1030301-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-19 14:41 ` Li Jun
2015-03-19 14:54 ` Roger Quadros
2015-03-18 13:55 ` [RFC][PATCH 4/9] usb: otg: hub: Notify OTG fsm when A device sets b_hnp_enable Roger Quadros
2015-03-18 13:55 ` [RFC][PATCH 5/9] usb: hcd: adapt to OTG Roger Quadros
2015-03-18 13:56 ` [RFC][PATCH 6/9] usb: gadget: udc: " Roger Quadros
2015-03-18 13:56 ` [RFC][PATCH 7/9] usb: dwc3: adapt to OTG core Roger Quadros
2015-03-18 13:56 ` [RFC][PATCH 8/9] usb: otg-fsm: Remove unused members in struct otg_fsm Roger Quadros
2015-03-19 3:46 ` Peter Chen
2015-03-19 10:20 ` Roger Quadros
2015-03-18 13:56 ` [RFC][PATCH 9/9] usb: otg-fsm: Add documentation for " Roger Quadros
2015-03-18 17:37 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/9] USB: OTG Core functionality Tony Lindgren
[not found] ` <20150318173726.GS31346-4v6yS6AI5VpBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-19 10:31 ` Roger Quadros
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