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From: Kevin Hilman <khilman@ti.com>
To: Thomas Renninger <trenn@suse.de>
Cc: Jean Pihet <jean.pihet@newoldbits.com>,
	Paul Walmsley <paul@pwsan.com>,
	mingo@elte.hu, Tony Lindgren <tony@atomide.com>,
	Russell King <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>,
	linux-omap@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@linux.intel.com>,
	linux-perf-users@vger.kernel.org, rjw@sisk.pl,
	Jean Pihet <j-pihet@ti.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] perf: add OMAP support for the new power events
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 17:24:35 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8739p0grl8.fsf@ti.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201101101514.32355.trenn@suse.de> (Thomas Renninger's message of "Mon, 10 Jan 2011 15:14:31 +0100")

Thomas Renninger <trenn@suse.de> writes:

> On Wednesday 05 January 2011 12:05:18 Jean Pihet wrote:
>> Hi Paul,
>> 
>> On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 7:48 PM, Paul Walmsley <paul@pwsan.com> wrote:
>> > Hello Jean,
>> >
>> > On Tue, 4 Jan 2011, jean.pihet@newoldbits.com wrote:
>> >
>> >> From: Jean Pihet <j-pihet@ti.com>
>> >>
>> >> The patch adds the new power management trace points for
>> >> the OMAP architecture.
>> >>
>> >> The trace points are for:
>> >> - default idle handler. Since the cpuidle framework is
>> >>   instrumented in the generic way there is no need to
>> >>   add trace points in the OMAP specific cpuidle handler;
>> >> - cpufreq (DVFS),
>> >> - clocks changes (enable, disable, set_rate),
>> >
>> > A question about these.  Are these only meant to track calls to these
>> > functions from outside the clock code?  Or meant to track actual hardware
>> > clock changes?
>> The former: this is used to track the clock requests from outside the
>> clock framework.
>> 
>> > If the latter, then it might make sense to put these
>> > trace points into the functions that actually change the hardware
>> > registers, e.g., omap2_dflt_clk_{enable,disable}(), etc., since a
>> > clk_enable() on a leaf clock may result in many internal system clocks
>> > being enabled up the clock tree.
>> I agree with you it is better to track the actual clock changes instead.
>> I propose to move the tracepoints to omap2_clk_{enable...} which
>> enables all the clocks irrespectively of the installed handler.
>> Note about the clock handlers: omap2_dflt_clk_enable happens to be the
>> handler for all controllable clocks but could that change in the
>> future?

> Looks like there is cpuidle34xx using cpuidle framework on specific
> boards only.  And pm34xx.c and others override pm_idle and use the
> same low level functions to reduce power consumption as cpuidle34xx.
> Ideally pm34xx.c (and others) would not override pm_idle, but register as
> a cpuidle driver. Then the idle events would be tracked by the
> cpuidle subsystem automatically (with my latest patches).
> But this would be a more intrusive change (are there efforts to do that?).

Whenever CPUidle is enabled though, the cpuidle34xx code is used so the
pm_idle in pm34xx is not used. This allows us to have a way to do PM
with and without CPUidle, so without CPUidle, we can still get some
basic PM in idle.

> Even if it should happen at some point, adding some additional events for
> people to better debug/monitor the stuff now does not hurt.

I agree, as the two both very useful.

Tracking CPUidle transitions gives us some high-level information on PM
transitions, but what is most interesting for real PM analysis on OMAP
is exactly which powerdomains, clockdomains and clocks transitions (or
didn't transition) for a given state.

Kevin

  reply	other threads:[~2011-01-11  1:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-01-04 10:17 [PATCH 0/3] perf, tools: new power trace API jean.pihet
2011-01-04 10:17 ` [PATCH 1/3] perf: add calls to suspend trace point jean.pihet
2011-01-04 10:39   ` Ingo Molnar
2011-01-04 10:17 ` [PATCH 2/3] perf: add OMAP support for the new power events jean.pihet
2011-01-04 10:42   ` Ingo Molnar
2011-01-04 10:58     ` Pihet-XID, Jean
2011-01-04 18:03   ` Nishanth Menon
2011-01-05 10:56     ` Jean Pihet
2011-01-04 10:17 ` [PATCH 3/3] tools, perf: Documentation for the power events API jean.pihet
2011-01-04 10:48 ` [PATCH 1/3] perf: add calls to suspend trace point jean.pihet
2011-01-04 11:29   ` Pavel Machek
2011-01-04 15:00     ` Jean Pihet
2011-01-04 23:01       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-01-05 10:09         ` Jean Pihet
2011-01-05 10:15           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-01-05 11:23             ` Pavel Machek
2011-01-04 10:54 ` [PATCH 2/3] perf: add OMAP support for the new power events jean.pihet
     [not found] ` <1294138484-24729-1-git-send-email-j-pihet@ti.com>
2011-01-04 18:48   ` Paul Walmsley
2011-01-05 11:05     ` Jean Pihet
2011-01-10 14:14       ` Thomas Renninger
2011-01-11  1:24         ` Kevin Hilman [this message]
2011-01-10 19:06       ` Paul Walmsley
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-12-10 19:51 [PATCH 0/3] perf, tools: new power trace API jean.pihet
2010-12-10 19:52 ` [PATCH 2/3] perf: add OMAP support for the new power events jean.pihet

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