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From: Kevin Hilman <khilman@ti.com>
To: Tony Lindgren <tony@atomide.com>
Cc: "DebBarma, Tarun Kanti" <tarun.kanti@ti.com>,
	"linux-omap@vger.kernel.org" <linux-omap@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Gopinath, Thara" <thara@ti.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v12 4/9] OMAP2+: dmtimer: convert to platform devices
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 16:03:03 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87d3lx5hoo.fsf@ti.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110311191324.GE10079@atomide.com> (Tony Lindgren's message of "Fri, 11 Mar 2011 11:13:24 -0800")

Tony Lindgren <tony@atomide.com> writes:

> * DebBarma, Tarun Kanti <tarun.kanti@ti.com> [110310 20:18]:
>> > From: Hilman, Kevin
>> > 
>> > I guess Tony has the final say here, but personally, I don't really like
>> > the special treatment of a system timer, unless it is an init-time only
>> > special treatment.  Since we now have dynamically configurable
>> > clocksources, the concept of a system timer doesn't really exist (except
>> > for in early boot.)  At any time during runtime, we could dynamically
>> > switch the clocksource to a different timer device.  At this point, one
>> > would expect runtime PM for the previous timer to kick in and idle the
>> > timer.  That cannot happen with this approach.
>>
>> I am open to suggestions.
>
> There's no need to dynamically change the clocksource. We can to set up
> things so we have a system timer running with minimal code and faster
> clock rate. Then we can use a separate timer with the 32KiHZ source
> just to provide wake-up events for idle modes. And this second wake-up
> timer can be just a regular device driver.
>
> The system timer code needs to be fast. And I don't want to add any
> dependencies to anything except clock framework. Like I've said, the
> rest of the timers can be just a regular device driver.

There are a couple problems with this approach.  The special case
handling of a "system" timer leads to duplicate code (this series is a
good example.)

The other problem is PM.

If we switch away from the original system timer (for whatever reason),
since it is not a regular device, it will not have runtime PM We'll then
need special case PM code for the system timer, which I think is wasted
effort.

If this can be done such that the system timer is eventually a regular
device driver, then that should be fine. 

Kevin

> I'll post some patches after the merge window for the system timer
> related code.
>
> Regards,
>
> Tony

  reply	other threads:[~2011-03-12  0:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-03-08 23:45 [PATCH v12 0/9] dmtimer adaptation to platform_driver Tarun Kanti DebBarma
2011-03-08 23:45 ` [PATCH v12 1/9] OMAP2+: dmtimer: add device names to flck nodes Tarun Kanti DebBarma
2011-03-08 23:45 ` [PATCH v12 2/9] OMAP4: hwmod data: add dmtimer version information Tarun Kanti DebBarma
2011-03-08 23:45 ` [PATCH v12 3/9] OMAP1: dmtimer: conversion to platform devices Tarun Kanti DebBarma
2011-03-08 23:45 ` [PATCH v12 4/9] OMAP2+: dmtimer: convert " Tarun Kanti DebBarma
2011-03-09 21:42   ` Tony Lindgren
2011-03-10 15:29     ` DebBarma, Tarun Kanti
2011-03-10 22:52   ` Kevin Hilman
2011-03-11  4:36     ` DebBarma, Tarun Kanti
2011-03-10 23:14   ` Kevin Hilman
2011-03-11  4:20     ` DebBarma, Tarun Kanti
2011-03-11 19:13       ` Tony Lindgren
2011-03-12  0:03         ` Kevin Hilman [this message]
2011-03-14 17:12           ` Tony Lindgren
2011-03-17 22:00             ` Kevin Hilman
2011-03-19  0:27               ` Tony Lindgren
2011-03-19  4:34                 ` Santosh Shilimkar
2011-03-21 17:07                   ` Tony Lindgren
2011-03-21 18:33                     ` Kevin Hilman
2011-03-21 19:11                       ` Tony Lindgren
2011-03-25  6:55                         ` DebBarma, Tarun Kanti
2011-03-25 15:55                           ` Tony Lindgren
2011-03-29 17:13                             ` Tony Lindgren
2011-03-29 17:52                               ` Tony Lindgren
2011-03-10 23:21   ` Kevin Hilman
2011-03-11  4:13     ` DebBarma, Tarun Kanti
2011-03-08 23:45 ` [PATCH v12 5/9] OMAP: dmtimer: platform driver Tarun Kanti DebBarma
2011-03-08 23:45 ` [PATCH v12 6/9] dmtimer: switch-over to platform device driver Tarun Kanti DebBarma
2011-03-09 22:02   ` Tony Lindgren
2011-03-10 15:27     ` DebBarma, Tarun Kanti
2011-03-10 17:56       ` Tony Lindgren
2011-03-11  5:35         ` DebBarma, Tarun Kanti
2011-03-11 12:45           ` G, Manjunath Kondaiah
2011-03-11 19:15             ` Tony Lindgren
2011-03-12  4:20               ` G, Manjunath Kondaiah
2011-03-11 19:14           ` Tony Lindgren
2011-03-14  6:48             ` DebBarma, Tarun Kanti
2011-03-08 23:45 ` [PATCH v12 7/9] OMAP: dmtimer: pm_runtime support Tarun Kanti DebBarma
2011-03-08 23:45 ` [PATCH v12 8/9] OMAP: dmtimer: add timeout to low-level routines Tarun Kanti DebBarma
2011-03-08 23:45 ` [PATCH v12 9/9] OMAP: dmtimer: use mutex instead of spinlock Tarun Kanti DebBarma

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