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From: Kevin Hilman <khilman@deeprootsystems.com>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
Cc: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
	Linux-pm mailing list <linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	Partha Basak <p-basak2@ti.com>,
	linux-omap@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH ver. 2] PM: add synchronous runtime interface for interrupt handlers
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 16:11:31 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87mxozd1ho.fsf@deeprootsystems.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201011232351.11340.rjw@sisk.pl> (Rafael J. Wysocki's message of "Tue, 23 Nov 2010 23:51:11 +0100")

"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl> writes:

> On Tuesday, November 23, 2010, Alan Stern wrote:
>> On Tue, 23 Nov 2010, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
>> 
>> > > > Moreover, I'm not sure if we need an "IRQ safe" version of _idle.  Why do
>> > > > we need it, exactly?
>> > > 
>> > > Because pm_runtime_put_sync() calls rpm_idle().  If there were no 
>> > > irq-safe version of rpm_idle() then drivers wouldn't be able to call 
>> > > pm_runtime_put_sync() from within an interrupt handler.
>> > 
>> > Right.  Which they can't do now, can they?
>> 
>> True.  That was the point of this patch -- to allow interrupt handlers
>> to do runtime PM, which they can't do now.
>
> The original idea was to allow suspend and resume to be carried out
> with interrupts off, not necessarily by interrupt handlers.  We've never
> considered doing that with _idle before.
>
>> > Why do you think we should allow them to do that?
>> 
>> Are you suggesting that interrupt handlers stick to pm_runtime_suspend 
>> and pm_runtime_resume, and ignore pm_runtime_get_sync and 
>> pm_runtime_put_sync?
>
> Why do they need the _sync versions?  What exactly is wrong with
> calling
>
> pm_runtime_put_noidle()
> pm_runtime_suspend()
>
> from an interrupt handler if it really wants the synchronous suspend to be
> carried out at this point?
>
> I don't really see a reason for calling pm_runtime_put_sync() by an interrupt
> handler, but perhaps I'm overlooking something important.

While I like the idea of the symmetry of having both _get_sync() and
_put_sync() callable from an interrupt handler, I can't currently think
of a situation where we would need to _put_sync() in the ISR.  A
standard _put() should suffice for all cases I can imagine.

Kevin

  reply	other threads:[~2010-11-24  0:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-09-24  0:05 runtime_pm_get_sync() from ISR with IRQs disabled? Kevin Hilman
2010-09-24 15:13 ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2010-09-24 18:54   ` Kevin Hilman
2010-09-24 20:04     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-09-27 13:57       ` Alan Stern
2010-09-27 20:00         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-09-27 20:39           ` Alan Stern
2010-09-27 21:09             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-09-28 14:55               ` Alan Stern
2010-09-28 18:19                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-09-30 18:25                   ` [PATCH] PM: add synchronous runtime interface for interrupt handlers Alan Stern
2010-09-30 20:15                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-09-30 21:42                       ` Alan Stern
2010-09-30 22:41                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-10-01 14:28                           ` Alan Stern
2010-10-01 21:23                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-10-02 14:12                               ` Alan Stern
2010-10-02 22:06                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-10-03 15:52                                   ` Alan Stern
2010-10-03 20:33                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-10-05 21:44                                 ` Kevin Hilman
2010-10-06 15:58                                   ` Alan Stern
2010-10-06 19:33                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-10-06 19:35                                     ` Kevin Hilman
2010-10-06 20:28                                       ` Alan Stern
2010-10-06 21:47                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-10-07 15:26                                           ` Alan Stern
2010-10-07 16:52                                             ` Kevin Hilman
2010-10-07 17:35                                               ` Alan Stern
2010-10-07 21:11                                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-10-07 23:15                                                   ` Kevin Hilman
2010-10-07 23:37                                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-10-07 23:55                                                       ` Kevin Hilman
2010-10-08 16:22                                                         ` Alan Stern
2010-10-08 21:04                                                           ` Kevin Hilman
2010-10-08 19:57                                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-10-08 16:18                                                   ` Alan Stern
2010-10-08 19:53                                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-10-09 11:09                                                       ` [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-10-11 17:00                                                         ` Alan Stern
2010-10-11 22:30                                                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-11-19 15:45                                           ` [PATCH ver. 2] " Alan Stern
2010-11-20 12:56                                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-11-20 16:59                                               ` Alan Stern
2010-11-20 19:41                                                 ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2010-11-21 23:45                                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-11-21 23:41                                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-11-22 15:38                                                   ` Alan Stern
2010-11-22 23:01                                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-11-23  3:19                                                       ` Alan Stern
2010-11-23 22:51                                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-11-24  0:11                                                           ` Kevin Hilman [this message]
2010-11-24 16:43                                                             ` Alan Stern
2010-11-24 18:03                                                               ` Kevin Hilman
2010-11-24 14:56                                                           ` Alan Stern
2010-11-24 20:33                                                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-11-25 15:52                                                               ` [PATCH ver. 3] " Alan Stern
2010-11-25 18:58                                                                 ` [linux-pm] " Oliver Neukum
2010-11-25 20:03                                                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-11-26 22:23                                                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-10-06 23:51                                         ` [PATCH] " Kevin Hilman
2010-09-30 22:02                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-10-01 14:12                       ` Alan Stern
2010-10-01 21:14                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-09-27 21:11             ` [linux-pm] runtime_pm_get_sync() from ISR with IRQs disabled? Kevin Hilman
2010-09-24 20:27     ` Alan Stern
2010-09-24 21:52       ` Kevin Hilman

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