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From: "Turquette, Mike" <mturquette@ti.com>
To: Santosh Shilimkar <santosh.shilimkar@ti.com>
Cc: "Menon, Nishanth" <nm@ti.com>, Kevin Hilman <khilman@ti.com>,
	linux-omap <linux-omap@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PM-WIP_CPUFREQ][PATCH 0/6 V3] Cleanups for cpufreq
Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 10:33:39 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <BANLkTiktQAt3q=a3-cNaFrTH5UeNH21tmg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4DDF4424.2000706@ti.com>

On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 1:26 AM, Santosh Shilimkar
<santosh.shilimkar@ti.com> wrote:
> On 5/27/2011 11:37 AM, Menon, Nishanth wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 22:06, Santosh Shilimkar
>> <santosh.shilimkar@ti.com>  wrote:
>>>
>>> On 5/26/2011 11:40 PM, Kevin Hilman wrote:
>>>>
>>>> So here's a dumb question, being rather ignorant of CPUfreq on SMP.
>>>>
>>>> Should we be running a CPUfreq instance on both CPUs when they cannot be
>>>> scaled independently?
>>>>
>>>> What is being scaled here is actually the cluster (the MPU SS via
>>>> dpll_mpu_ck), not an individual CPU.  So to me, it only makes sense to
>>>> have a an instance of the driver per scalable device, which in this case
>>>> is a single MPU SS.
>>>>
>>> We are running only one instance and for the exact same reason as above.
>>> You are completely right and that's the whole intention of those
>>> CPUMASK two lines in the initialization code.
>>>
>>>
>>>> What am I missing?
>>>>
>>> Not at all.
>>
>> So not have cpufreq driver registered at all for CPU1? Life would be a
>> lot simpler in omap2-cpufreq.c as a result. but that said, two views:
>> a) future silicon somewhere ahead might need the current
>> infrastructure to scale into different tables..
>> b) as far as userspace sees it - cpu0 and cpu1 exists, cool, *but*
>> cpu1 is not scalable(no /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu1/cpufreq.. but
>> .../cpu1/online is present). Keep in mind that userspace is usually
>> written chip independent. IMHO registering drivers for both devices do
>> make sense they reflect what the reality of the system is. 2 cpus
>> scaling together - why do we want to OMAP "specific" stuff here?
>>
> It's not OMAP specific Nishant.
> And this feature is supported by CPUFREQ driver. My Intel machine
> uses the same exact scheme for CPUFREQ. It's feature provided
> specifically for hardwares with individual CPU scaling
> limitation. Instead of CPU's, whole CPU cluster scales
> together.
>
> Both CPU's still have same consistent view of all CPUFREQ controls.
> But in  back-ground, CPU1 is carrying only symbolic links.
>
> We make use of "related/affected cpu" feature which is
> supported by generic CPUFREQ driver. Nothing OMAP-specific
> here.

Santosh is referring to this code in our cpufreq driver:

        /*
         * On OMAP SMP configuartion, both processors share the voltage
         * and clock. So both CPUs needs to be scaled together and hence
         * needs software co-ordination. Use cpufreq affected_cpus
         * interface to handle this scenario. Additional is_smp() check
         * is to keep SMP_ON_UP build working.
         */
        if (is_smp()) {
                policy->shared_type = CPUFREQ_SHARED_TYPE_ANY;
                cpumask_or(cpumask, cpumask_of(policy->cpu), cpumask);
                cpumask_copy(policy->cpus, cpumask);
        }

policy->cpus knows about each CPU now (in fact, due to this you will
see /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu1/cpufreq is in fact a symlink to its
cpu0 sibling!)

This is pretty good in fact, since governors like ondemand take into
consideration *all* of the CPUs in policy->cpus:

        /* Get Absolute Load - in terms of freq */
        max_load_freq = 0; <- tracks greatest need across all CPUs

        for_each_cpu(j, policy->cpus) {
                ... find max_load_freq ...

Ultimate effect is that we run a single workqueue only on CPU0
(kondemand or whatever) that takes the load characteristics of both
CPU0 and CPU1 into account.

Regards,
Mike


> And as I said i n other thread, if at all in future we get
> CPU's which can scale indepedently, we just need to change
> that one line where we specify the relation between CPU's.
> It's as trivial as that.
>
> Regards
> Santosh
>
>
>
>
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  reply	other threads:[~2011-05-27 15:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-05-25 23:38 [PM-WIP_CPUFREQ][PATCH 0/6 V3] Cleanups for cpufreq Nishanth Menon
2011-05-25 23:38 ` [PM-WIP_CPUFREQ][PATCH V3 1/8] OMAP2+: cpufreq: move clk name decision to init Nishanth Menon
2011-05-26 17:33   ` Kevin Hilman
2011-05-25 23:38 ` [PM-WIP_CPUFREQ][PATCH V3 2/8] OMAP2+: cpufreq: deny initialization if no mpudev Nishanth Menon
2011-05-26 17:34   ` Kevin Hilman
2011-05-25 23:38 ` [PM-WIP_CPUFREQ][PATCH V3 3/8] OMAP2+: cpufreq: use opp/clk_*cpufreq_table based on silicon Nishanth Menon
2011-05-26 17:38   ` Kevin Hilman
2011-05-26 18:35     ` Menon, Nishanth
2011-05-26 18:39       ` Menon, Nishanth
2011-05-26 20:25         ` Kevin Hilman
2011-05-25 23:38 ` [PM-WIP_CPUFREQ][PATCH V3 4/8] OMAP2+: cpufreq: dont support !freq_table Nishanth Menon
2011-05-26  0:51   ` Todd Poynor
2011-05-26  0:53     ` Menon, Nishanth
     [not found]     ` <SNT104-W336E0DDFB034FA635C328BBA770@phx.gbl>
2011-05-26  1:03       ` Menon, Nishanth
2011-05-25 23:38 ` [PM-WIP_CPUFREQ][PATCH V3 5/8] OMAP2+: cpufreq: fix invalid cpufreq table with central alloc/free Nishanth Menon
2011-05-26  1:09   ` Todd Poynor
2011-05-26  1:21     ` Menon, Nishanth
2011-05-25 23:38 ` [PM-WIP_CPUFREQ][PATCH V3 6/8] OMAP2+: cpufreq: fix freq_table leak Nishanth Menon
2011-05-26  0:16   ` Kevin Hilman
2011-05-26  0:47     ` Menon, Nishanth
2011-05-26 17:11       ` Kevin Hilman
2011-05-26 18:34         ` Menon, Nishanth
2011-05-26  1:25   ` Todd Poynor
2011-05-26  1:36     ` Menon, Nishanth
2011-05-25 23:38 ` [PM-WIP_CPUFREQ][PATCH V3 7/8] OMAP2+: cpufreq: put clk if cpu_init failed Nishanth Menon
2011-05-25 23:38 ` [PM-WIP_CPUFREQ][PATCH V3 8/8] OMAP: cpufreq: minor file header updates Nishanth Menon
2011-05-26  0:18   ` Kevin Hilman
2011-05-26  0:48     ` Menon, Nishanth
2011-05-26 18:15   ` Kevin Hilman
2011-05-26 18:10 ` [PM-WIP_CPUFREQ][PATCH 0/6 V3] Cleanups for cpufreq Kevin Hilman
2011-05-26 18:36   ` Menon, Nishanth
2011-05-27  5:06   ` Santosh Shilimkar
2011-05-27  6:07     ` Menon, Nishanth
2011-05-27  6:26       ` Santosh Shilimkar
2011-05-27 15:33         ` Turquette, Mike [this message]
2011-05-27 23:27           ` Kevin Hilman
2011-05-29 17:25             ` Menon, Nishanth

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