From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from hiscom.nl (unknown [130.78.143.1]) by dsl2.external.hp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D100A482E for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2003 07:04:29 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <03Aug5.152448cest.119163@ns.hiscom.nl> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Beerse=2C_Corn=E9=22?= To: "'Nahkola Mikko'" , parisc-linux@lists.parisc-linux.org Subject: RE: [parisc-linux] Terminfo/termcap for a 70096 ... Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 15:04:24 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C35B52.17F0F8A0" Sender: parisc-linux-admin@lists.parisc-linux.org Errors-To: parisc-linux-admin@lists.parisc-linux.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: parisc-linux developers list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C35B52.17F0F8A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > -----Original Message----- > From: Nahkola Mikko [mailto:mnahkola@trinms01.ntc.nokia.com] > > I tried to ask this question in the comp.sys.hp.hpux newsgroup once but > didn't get any useful answers... anyone here know better? The /etc/termcap file on a RedHat 7.3 machine does contain a bunch of HP terminals, including 700 series like 700 44 and 700 92. I think the latter one will suit your needs. There are even more. As far as I know, it all ends in hpterm, the hp-terminal emulator (xterm equivalent) for X11 (vue) with similar capabilities as the 700 series terminals. Unfortunatly, while installing DebianWoody on a D370, I found none of them in the terminfo database (and no termcap file). And the HP700/96 came with the D370. I know one thing to do after finalizing the install.... > > (yes, I know, this is probably specifically _not_ a problem on > parisc-linux as all the parisc stuff is supposed to have a HP-UX license > in the first place, for some version of HP-UX.) > > Is it legal to copy terminfo and termcap entries (from HP-UX in this > case)? I don't think it is illegal to tune any system to use HP hardware with a published interface and I think the manual of the terminal clearly publishes the codes as used in the termcap or terminfo files. > > The problem is that HP-UX is pretty much the only thing that comes with a > terminfo entry for a 70096, and we have a bunch of those that could be > useful on other systems too ... except that the scrollback doesn't work > in the emulation modes. Some settings of $TERM that come to mind include 'hpterm', 'hp700', 'hp70092'. I recal I've used them between HP-UX and Solaris machines, hence Solaris also might have suitable termcap or terminfo entries. > > It would therefore be better to be able to run in native mode, but this > pretty much _requires_ the terminfo/termcap entry ... > > Oh, and about the cursor keys on the 70096, if I were to put > them in the > "application" mode, would that help with bash et al.? They seem to be > working in swinstall and such on HP-UX ... but the default > mode seems to > be non-transmitting, right? (yes, I could use that too myself, and > re-enter stuff from the buffer with the print/enter key and do the > line-modify thing... but the others have a hard time learning that.) don't know, just put the terminal in em220 (vt220 emulation) mode to install debian. CBee ------_=_NextPart_001_01C35B52.17F0F8A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: [parisc-linux] Terminfo/termcap for a 70096 ...

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nahkola Mikko [mailto:mnahkola@trinms01= .ntc.nokia.com]
>
> I tried to ask this question in the = comp.sys.hp.hpux newsgroup once but
> didn't get any useful answers... anyone here = know better?

The /etc/termcap file on a RedHat 7.3 machine does = contain a bunch of HP terminals, including 700 series like 700 44 and = 700 92. I think the latter one will suit your needs. There are even = more. As far as I know, it all ends in hpterm, the hp-terminal emulator = (xterm equivalent) for X11 (vue) with similar capabilities as the 700 = series terminals.

Unfortunatly, while installing DebianWoody on a D370, = I found none of them in the terminfo database (and no termcap file). = And the HP700/96 came with the D370. I know one thing to do after = finalizing the install....

>
> (yes, I know, this is probably specifically = _not_ a problem on
> parisc-linux as all the parisc stuff is = supposed to have a HP-UX license
> in the first place, for some version of = HP-UX.)
>
> Is it legal to copy terminfo and termcap = entries (from HP-UX in this
> case)?

I don't think it is illegal to tune any system to use = HP hardware with a published interface and I think the manual of the = terminal clearly publishes the codes as used in the termcap or terminfo = files.

>
> The problem is that HP-UX is pretty much the = only thing that comes with a
> terminfo entry for a 70096, and we have a bunch = of those that  could be
> useful on other systems too ... except that the = scrollback doesn't work
> in the emulation modes.

Some settings of $TERM that come to mind include = 'hpterm', 'hp700', 'hp70092'. I recal I've used them between HP-UX and = Solaris machines, hence Solaris also might have suitable termcap or = terminfo entries.

>
> It would therefore be better to be able to run = in native mode, but this
> pretty much _requires_ the terminfo/termcap = entry ...
>
> Oh, and about the cursor keys on the 70096, if = I were to put
> them in the
> "application" mode, would that help = with bash et al.? They seem to be
> working in swinstall and such on HP-UX ... but = the default
> mode seems to
> be non-transmitting, right? (yes, I could use = that too myself, and
> re-enter stuff from the buffer with the = print/enter key and do the
> line-modify thing... but the others have a hard = time learning that.)

don't know, just put the terminal in em220 (vt220 = emulation) mode to install debian.





CBee

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