From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp-send.myrealbox.com (smtp-send.myrealbox.com [192.108.102.143]) by dsl2.external.hp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FCE14854 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 07:12:33 -0700 (MST) Subject: Re: [parisc-linux] Installing Debian on an 712/80 From: "Brian Barber" To: parisc-linux@parisc-linux.org Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 09:12:32 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <1073916752.bd0297c0brianbarber@myrealbox.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Cc: Reply-To: brianbarber@linux.ca List-Id: parisc-linux developers list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , With the older Sun CDROM drive and the full debian-hppa iso, the install wa= s trivial. One thing that is really remarkable is the "power on to login= prompt" speed. Everything that I have tried so far works great. This i= s a brilliant port. The only hangup I had was installing XFree86. I tried installing using x-w= indow-system, which kept failing with twm as a broken dependency (Depend:= twm is needed but will not be installed / Sorry, broken package [sic - g= oing off the top of my head]). I installed with x-window-system-core, wh= ich was successful, and then installed individual packages as required (e= .g. xterm, xdm, etc.) Thanks for the guidance on the CDROM drive. That tip might want to find it= s way into the install documentation for other PARISC rookies. Cheers, BB PS: Now that I have a working machine, how can I help the development effor= t? -----Original Message----- From: "Brian Barber" To: parisc-linux@parisc-linux.org Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2004 16:12:14 -0500 Subject: Re: [parisc-linux] Re: Installing Debian on an 712/80 Good news (for me, that is). A colleague here at work located an older ext= ernal Sun CDROM, which I believe supports 512k byte segments. I'll try a= n install with it this weekend and send an update when I'm successful. (N= ote the optimism) Have a good weekend, everyone. BB -----Original Message----- From: Steve Bromwich To: Matthew Wilcox Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2004 18:13:13 -0400 (AST) Subject: Re: [parisc-linux] Re: Installing Debian on an 712/80 On Thu, 1 Jan 2004, Matthew Wilcox wrote: > On Tue, Dec 23, 2003 at 10:20:01AM -0500, Brian Barber wrote: > > > I've done some more digging and come up with the following obstacles: > > 1) HP machines require active SCSI termination, hence the reason why I = could not boot from my (borrowed) external SCSI CD-ROM (passive terminato= r only) > > I'm not sure that's true, but they do require certain CD drives to > boot from. I forget the details; something to do with 2k vs 512 byte > sector sizes. The industry standard (ie, IBM PC world) is 2048 byte sectors, whereas HP (and Sun) use 512 byte sectors. If you don't have a drive that supports 512 byte sectors, you won't get anywhere. See the post I made (and subsequent informative posts from others) at http://lists.parisc-linux.org/pipermail/parisc-linux/2003-November/021645.h= tml for more details. > > If I am correct (jump in here), I am left with bootp/tftp as the only > > means of booting the machine. If I take this route, I copy lifimage > > to the boot directory of my tftp server. This is where I am stuck. > > There is no documentation I can find (or discern) that walks one throug= h > > an install from a tftp-booted machine. Is there a way for me to mount > > the Debain CD via nfs and launch the installer from there? When you boot via tftp you still need a way to communicate with the box, either using a keyboard and monitor, or (more commonly) via serial console. Is this the answer to the question you're asking? Alternatively, when you boot the lifimage I *think* you get the option of installing from pre-mounted directory (somewhat useless via serial console - I don't think there's any way to get a shell prompt to premount a directory), NFS, HTTP or FTP - ie, the usual Debian install methodology. I suspect your best bet is over NFS. > I'd like to just point you at the boot HOWTO [1], but it doesn't seem > to cover this step. It only covers booting the kernel, not setting up > your NFS root. I've had mixed success with using debootstrap to populate > a minimal nfsroot, then updating to sid and installing new packages. One thing I noticed is that the config given is using inetd (I use xinetd) and appears to be using the "standard" tftp, rather than hpa's tftpd. I recently set up a diskless J200 (imaginatively named "j200"), the config I used on the server is as follows: dhcpd.conf: allow bootp; option domain-name "fop.ns.ca"; option domain-name-servers 10.2.1.10; option log-servers 10.2.1.10; authoritative; use-host-decl-names on; host j200 { hardware ethernet 08:00:09:8c:d1:41; filename "lifimage"; server-name "10.2.1.10"; fixed-address 10.2.1.21; option subnet-mask 255.255.255.0; option broadcast-address 10.2.1.255; option routers 10.2.1.200; option domain-name "fop.ns.ca"; option root-path "10.2.1.21:/j200"; } xinetd.conf: service tftp { socket_type =3D dgram protocol =3D udp wait =3D yes user =3D root #server =3D /usr/sbin/tcpd #server_args =3D /usr/sbin/in.tftpd /tftpboot server =3D /usr/sbin/in.tftpd server_args =3D -v -s /tftpboot disable =3D no } One tip I noticed is it takes a dog's age to boot with serial console set to 9600. If you're going to do a serial console, I'd recommend upping the rate to 19200. I'm off to Boston tomorrow for a week and a half, but if you're still having troubles when I get back I can fire up the J200 and write up a step-by-step if it'd help. Cheers, Steve _______________________________________________ parisc-linux mailing list parisc-linux@lists.parisc-linux.org http://lists.parisc-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/parisc-linux