From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtpzilla3.xs4all.nl (smtpzilla3.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.139]) by dsl2.external.hp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B89C4482C for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 13:15:38 -0700 (MST) Received: from rivierenland.xs4all.nl (rivierenland.xs4all.nl [194.109.14.47]) by smtpzilla3.xs4all.nl (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id fAJKFWn7044216 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 21:15:36 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 21:13:49 +0100 From: Jurriaan on Alpha To: Markus Grabert Cc: parisc-linux@lists.parisc-linux.org Subject: Re: [parisc-linux] State of official Linux kernel Message-ID: <20011119211349.A19479@alpha.of.nowhere> Reply-To: thunder7@xs4all.nl References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In-Reply-To: Sender: parisc-linux-admin@lists.parisc-linux.org Errors-To: parisc-linux-admin@lists.parisc-linux.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: parisc-linux developers list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 07:40:28PM +0000, Markus Grabert wrote: > Hi, > > I'm just curious what the state of the PA-RISC support of the > official linux kernel is (2.4.14 from kernel.org). > > IMHO I assume that the latest Linux/PA-RISC progress didn't and won't > make it in the official linux kernel tree (at least not soon), am I right ? > (I don't see any hppa changes in the kernel-Changelogs at all) Not while there are multiple changes per day - anyone with a parisc machine tracks the parisc-kernel anyway, so what would be the point? > > Probably due to the fact that Linux/PA-RISC is still somewhat > experimental and probably some design issues are not fixed yet. > Are there any plans to integrate the lastest stuff into the > linux main tree (soon) ? I gather there's more use in fixing bugs than merging. Also see above. > > What about gcc, gdb, glibc and binutils ? How long do you think does it > take to get the current fixes/patches into a release ? There's some tough bugs at the moment, and I hope that after those are squashed our hard-working developers will have the time to concentrate on the kernel, with a relatively stable parisc development userland. > > AFAIK RedHat/Cygnus supports/maintains gcc, gdb, glibc and binutils. > Are there (usually) any problems to get the patches/fixes (of gcc, gdb, > ...) into a official release ? How good is the cooperation with the main > developers of these tools/libraries ? RedHat doesn't seem to be interested > in an Linux/PA-RISC port and debian is something like a competitor ... > You can't be serious. Debian/parisc is no competitior of RedHat. I assume there would be no problem getting fixes in if they are the right fixes. At this moment, I haven't seen a clear email saying: 'all bugs in the development tools have been found, go forth and apt-get update!'. Good luck, Jurriaan -- IBM: I'm Beyond Mistakes GNU/Linux 2.4.15-pre6 on Debian/Alpha 64-bits 988 bogomips load:0.15 0.53 0.61