From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mailserv2.iuinc.com (qmailr@mailserv2.iuinc.com [206.245.164.55]) by puffin.external.hp.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id RAA07456 for ; Sat, 12 Jun 1999 17:53:32 -0600 Received: from thepuffingroup.com (IDENT:adevries@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by feather.thepuffingroup.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA10721 for ; Sat, 12 Jun 1999 20:01:06 -0400 Sender: adevries@feather.thepuffingroup.com Message-ID: <3762F4BE.C09B5CA9@thepuffingroup.com> Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 20:01:02 -0400 From: Alex deVries MIME-Version: 1.0 To: parisc-linux@thepuffingroup.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [parisc-linux] It's finally sunk in: bye bye elf32 List-ID: Over the last week I've really spent a lot of time trying to get the kernel to build and boot when crosss compiled from i386. This meant using the existing broken elf32 implementation. This was only to be a temporary solution until at some point we got a proper ELF64 implementation from Cygnus, which we'd then fold back into ELF32. That's a long way off though, and it's important to move forward on this port. It's quite possible that we could have fixed up the broken elf32 implementation enough to build our kernel and bootloader, but the worry is that there's a risk that it's going to be a huge pain. So, I'm going to do an about face and change my mind completely about the som/elf32 situation. So far, Matt Wilcox, Alan Cox, Jef Law and Chris Beard all seem to agree. I'm just a bit slow in jumping on board. There's two reasons I'm changing my mind somewhat suddenly: - I had really bad nightmares last night about having to fix the broken elf32 implementation, which I really don't understand, which would be dumped later down the road, and for which there's a supported implementation on HPUX. - I spent the entire day building a deck in the sun; it made me come to my senses and realize that I'd been arguing some of this because it's the assumption I'd done my existing work on. It's sometimes difficult to tear yourself away from the details of the problem and look at the bigger picture. So, I'm going to spend some time making the kernel build on HPUX. I know there's quite a few changes to make. But I'll keep the elf specific work, it'll help later on. - Alex - Alex