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From: NIIBE Yutaka <gniibe@fsij.org>
To: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>
Cc: linux-parisc@vger.kernel.org,
	pkg-gauche-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org, 561203@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: threads and fork on machine with VIPT-WB cache
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 09:39:09 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4BB9312D.6030409@fsij.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1270210927.2899.27.camel@mulgrave.site>

Thanks a lot for the discussion.

James Bottomley wrote:
> So your theory is that the data the kernel sees doing the page copy can
> be stale because of dirty cache lines in userspace (which is certainly
> possible in the ordinary way)?

Yes.

> By design that shouldn't happen: the idea behind COW breaking is
> that before it breaks, the page is read only ... this means that
> processes can have clean cache copies of it, but never dirty cache
> copies (because writes are forbidden).

That must be design, I agree.

To keep this condition (no dirty cache for COW page), we need to flush
cache before ptep_set_wrprotect.  That's my point.

Please look at the code path:
   (kernel/fork.c)
   do_fork -> copy_process -> copy_mm -> dup_mm -> dup_mmap ->
   (mm/memory.c)
   copy_page_range -> copy_p*d_range -> copy_one_pte -> ptep_set_wrprotect

The function flush_cache_dup_mm is called from dup_mmap, that's enough
for a case of a process with single thread.

I think that:
We need to flush cache before ptep_set_wrprotect for a process with
multiple threads.  Other threads may change memory after a thread
invokes do_fork and before calling ptep_set_wrprotect.  Specifically,
a process may sleep at pte_alloc function to get a page.
-- 

  reply	other threads:[~2010-04-05  0:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <4BA43CE5.4020807@fsij.org>
     [not found] ` <87hbo4ek8l.fsf@thialfi.karme.de>
     [not found]   ` <4BB18B46.2070203@fsij.org>
     [not found]     ` <4BB53D26.60601@fsij.org>
2010-04-02  2:41       ` threads and fork on machine with VIPT-WB cache NIIBE Yutaka
2010-04-02  3:30         ` James Bottomley
2010-04-02  3:48           ` NIIBE Yutaka
2010-04-02  8:05             ` NIIBE Yutaka
2010-04-02 19:35               ` John David Anglin
2010-04-08 21:11                 ` Helge Deller
2010-04-08 21:54                   ` John David Anglin
2010-04-08 22:44                     ` John David Anglin
2010-04-09 14:14                       ` Carlos O'Donell
2010-04-09 15:13                         ` John David Anglin
2010-04-09 15:48                           ` James Bottomley
2010-04-09 16:22                             ` John David Anglin
2010-04-09 16:31                               ` James Bottomley
2010-04-10 20:46                           ` Helge Deller
2010-04-10 21:56                             ` John David Anglin
2010-04-10 22:53                             ` John David Anglin
2010-04-11 18:50                               ` Helge Deller
2010-04-11 22:25                                 ` John David Anglin
2010-04-12 21:02                                   ` Helge Deller
2010-04-12 21:41                                     ` John David Anglin
2010-04-13 11:55                                       ` Helge Deller
2010-04-13 14:03                                         ` John David Anglin
2010-04-15 22:35                                         ` John David Anglin
2010-04-19 16:26                                         ` John David Anglin
2010-04-20 17:59                                           ` Helge Deller
2010-04-20 18:52                                             ` John David Anglin
2010-05-09 12:43                                             ` John David Anglin
2010-05-09 14:14                                               ` Carlos O'Donell
2010-05-10  9:56                                               ` Helge Deller
2010-05-10 14:56                                                 ` John David Anglin
2010-05-10 19:20                                                   ` Helge Deller
2010-05-10 21:07                                                     ` John David Anglin
2010-05-11 16:37                                                       ` John David Anglin
2010-05-11 21:39                                                         ` John David Anglin
2010-05-11 20:44                                                       ` Helge Deller
2010-05-11 20:41                                                     ` Helge Deller
2010-05-11 21:26                                                       ` John David Anglin
2010-05-11 21:41                                                         ` Helge Deller
2010-05-15 21:02                                                           ` John David Anglin
2010-05-16 20:22                                                             ` Helge Deller
2010-05-16 21:38                                                               ` John David Anglin
2010-05-22 17:25                                                               ` John David Anglin
2010-05-23 13:11                                                             ` Carlos O'Donell
2010-05-23 14:43                                                               ` John David Anglin
2010-05-01 18:34                                           ` Thibaut VARENE
2010-05-01 20:17                                             ` John David Anglin
2010-05-02 10:53                                               ` Thibaut VARÈNE
2010-04-11 16:36                           ` [PATCH] Call pagefault_disable/pagefault_enable in kmap_atomic/kunmap_atomic John David Anglin
2010-04-11 17:03                         ` [PATCH] Remove unnecessary macros from entry.S John David Anglin
2010-04-11 17:08                         ` [PATCH] Delete unnecessary nop's in entry.S John David Anglin
2010-04-11 17:12                         ` [PATCH] Avoid interruption in critical region " John David Anglin
2010-04-11 18:24                           ` James Bottomley
2010-04-11 18:45                             ` John David Anglin
2010-04-11 18:53                               ` James Bottomley
2010-04-11 17:26                         ` [PATCH] LWS fixes for syscall.S John David Anglin
2010-06-02 15:33                       ` Bug#561203: threads and fork on machine with VIPT-WB cache Modestas Vainius
2010-06-02 17:16                         ` John David Anglin
2010-06-02 17:56                           ` Bug#561203: " dann frazier
2010-06-03  8:50                             ` Modestas Vainius
2010-06-04  1:03                               ` NIIBE Yutaka
2010-06-04  5:21                                 ` dann frazier
2010-06-04 10:44                                   ` Thibaut VARENE
2010-06-07 17:11                                     ` dann frazier
2010-06-07 18:27                                       ` Thibaut VARÈNE
2010-06-07 23:33                                         ` dann frazier
2010-06-06  1:01                                   ` Modestas Vainius
2010-04-02 12:22             ` James Bottomley
2010-04-05  0:39               ` NIIBE Yutaka [this message]
2010-04-05  2:51                 ` John David Anglin
2010-04-05  2:58                   ` John David Anglin
2010-04-05 16:18                   ` James Bottomley
2010-04-06  4:57                     ` NIIBE Yutaka
2010-04-06 13:37                       ` James Bottomley
2010-04-06 13:44                         ` James Bottomley

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