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From: Helge Deller <deller@gmx.de>
To: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>
Cc: John David Anglin <dave.anglin@bell.net>,
	Carlos O'Donell <carlos@systemhalted.org>,
	Aaro Koskinen <aaro.koskinen@iki.fi>,
	Mike Frysinger <vapier@gentoo.org>,
	linux-parisc <linux-parisc@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: parisc: fix mmap(MAP_FIXED|MAP_SHARED) to already mmapped address
Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2015 20:16:43 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <54EA2B1B.10406@gmx.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1424632396.2146.116.camel@HansenPartnership.com>

On 22.02.2015 20:13, James Bottomley wrote:
> On Sun, 2015-02-22 at 19:07 +0100, Helge Deller wrote:
>>>>>> SHMLBA is 4096 /* (1 << PGSHIFT) */ on hpux.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The following is in <asm-generic/shmparam.h>:
>>>>>> #define SHMLBA PAGE_SIZE	 /* attach addr a multiple of this */
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Shared mappings are handled with
>>>>>> asm/shmparam.h:#define SHM_COLOUR 0x00400000	/* shared mappings colouring */
>>>>>
>>>>> So how is the sys-v ipc problem fixed?  There the user is told to select
>>>>> an address which is a multiple of SHMLBA.  Programs that do this today
>>>>> will start to break on writeable mappings if we set SHMLBA to PAGE_SIZE
>>>>> because the colour will be wrong.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The code returns -EINVAL.  See arch_get_unmapped_area.
>>>
>>> But that's not a solution.  Let me try to illustrate: I have an existing
>>> application, it uses sys-v ipc and selects a shmat address based on the
>>> multiple of SHMLBA for a writeable mapping.  Today it works.
>>
>> It will work as well with SHMBLA=4096, if you just use SHM_RND too
>> (and most applications do have SHM_RND).
>> man shmat says:
>>    * If shmaddr isn't NULL and SHM_RND is specified in shmflg, the attach occurs at the address equal to shmaddr rounded down to the nearest multiple of SHMLBA.
>> * Otherwise, shmaddr must be a page-aligned address at which the attach occurs.
>>
>> So, even here shmaddr is mentioned to be page-aligned (4k), not
>> SHMLBA-aligned (4M in your case).
>
> I think that part is x86.  All the other VI architectures impose their
> VI colour constrainst in SHMLBA.  We're the odd one out because we have
> a huge stride (everyone else is small multiples of pages).
>
> But agree if no applications are affected, we can make the ABI change.
>
>>> Tomorrow
>>> when you make this change, it fails with -EINVAL.  That's breaking an
>>> existing application because chances are the app will just report the
>>> failure and exit.
>>
>> Tomorrow?  This change is *already* implemented in eglibc since a year or
>> so and I don't see any applications which break because of SHMBLA=4096...
>
> Is eglibc a big enough sample to make the claim that no applications
> will be broken?

Try yourself:
https://parisc.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Debian_Ports_Installation
Just install debian 8.0 (aka unstable for hppa). KDE, Xfce, libreoffice,
and a all others packages just work out of the box.

Helge

  reply	other threads:[~2015-02-22 19:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-12-19 19:17 parisc: fix mmap(MAP_FIXED|MAP_SHARED) to already mmapped address Aaro Koskinen
2013-12-19 19:44 ` John David Anglin
2013-12-19 20:28   ` Aaro Koskinen
2013-12-19 21:19   ` Mike Frysinger
2013-12-19 22:38     ` John David Anglin
2013-12-19 23:02       ` Mike Frysinger
2013-12-20 22:10         ` Helge Deller
2013-12-23 20:26           ` Aaro Koskinen
2013-12-29 20:50             ` Helge Deller
2013-12-29 21:26               ` Aaro Koskinen
2013-12-21 18:18         ` John David Anglin
2014-03-02 21:22     ` Helge Deller
2014-04-01 18:26       ` Aaro Koskinen
2014-04-01 18:49         ` Helge Deller
2014-04-02 19:09           ` Carlos O'Donell
2014-04-02 21:09             ` Helge Deller
2014-04-02 21:41               ` John David Anglin
2014-04-03 19:41                 ` Helge Deller
2014-04-03 20:03                   ` John David Anglin
2014-04-03 20:26                     ` Helge Deller
2015-02-20 21:36                       ` Carlos O'Donell
2015-02-21 20:31                         ` John David Anglin
2015-02-21 20:40                           ` John David Anglin
2015-02-21 23:09                             ` James Bottomley
2015-02-21 23:26                               ` Helge Deller
2015-02-21 23:57                                 ` James Bottomley
2015-02-22 16:45                                   ` John David Anglin
2015-02-22 17:17                                     ` James Bottomley
2015-02-22 17:53                                       ` Helge Deller
2015-02-22 17:54                                       ` John David Anglin
2015-02-22 17:58                                         ` James Bottomley
2015-02-22 18:07                                           ` Helge Deller
2015-02-22 19:13                                             ` James Bottomley
2015-02-22 19:16                                               ` Helge Deller [this message]
2015-02-22 19:42                                                 ` James Bottomley
2015-03-07 19:05                                                   ` Carlos O'Donell
2015-02-22 18:28                                         ` parisc: fix mmap(MAP_FIXED|MAP_SHARED) to already mmapped address - optimized patches Helge Deller
2015-02-22 17:28                                     ` parisc: fix mmap(MAP_FIXED|MAP_SHARED) to already mmapped address James Bottomley
2015-02-22 18:02                                       ` John David Anglin
2015-02-21 21:04                           ` Helge Deller
2014-04-03 20:12                   ` John David Anglin
2014-04-03 20:27                     ` Helge Deller
2014-04-04 15:45                     ` Jeroen Roovers
2013-12-19 20:28 ` Helge Deller
2013-12-19 20:53   ` Aaro Koskinen
2013-12-23 20:34 ` Rolf Eike Beer
2013-12-24  2:39   ` John David Anglin
2013-12-24  9:32     ` Rolf Eike Beer
2014-01-27 11:23   ` Rolf Eike Beer

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