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From: Helge Deller <deller@gmx.de>
To: Sam James <sam@gentoo.org>, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Cc: Helge Deller <deller@gmx.de>,
	"linux-parisc@vger.kernel.org" <linux-parisc@vger.kernel.org>,
	joey.gouly@arm.com
Subject: Re: prctl call wrongly succeeds on HPPA?
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2023 21:25:48 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZU6RzDKaDXHAwosp@p100> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87zfzl8ix3.fsf@gentoo.org>

* Sam James <sam@gentoo.org>:
> 
> Helge Deller <deller@gmx.de> writes:
> 
> > On 11/3/23 13:53, Sam James wrote:
> >> Sam James <sam@gentoo.org> writes:
> >>> I recently hit an issue with systemd-254 which tries to use the new
> >>> prctl(PR_SET_MDWE) for systemd's MemoryDenyWriteExecute functionality.
> >
> > Is this still a problem?
> 
> Yes. When I get time, I will play with Dave's changes to allow using
> non-exeuctable stacks, but for now, it is broken until I can test these
> (thanks dave for working on that, and helge for the kernel side).
> 
> >
> >>> On HPPA, we still need executable stacks, so this option doesn't work
> >>> and leads to a segfault on boot.
> >
> > For kernel we don't need it any longer.
> > But there might be dependencies on glibc version and/or combination.
> > So, I've currently lost overview if we still need executable stacks...
> >
> 
> I don't remember which kernel version either.. I think it was last year
> that you finished off all the DSO bits.

Kernel 5.18+ should be OK:
https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=df24e1783e6e0eb3dc0e3ba5a8df3bb0cc537408

> I had to configure binutils with --enable-default-execstack=no for it to
> work in addition to Dave's GCC patches. But I did not test systemd yet...
> 
> (sorry, I know this is equally vague.)
> 
> >>> Should this call be succeeeding on HPPA, or should we reject it for
> >>> now until we have things wired up?
> >>>
> >>> Reported to systemd at https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/29775.
> >>
> >> Lennart has made clear (and I don't think I disagree) that he considers
> >> this squarely a kernel bug.
> >
> > I've read the various bug reports and looked at the kernel commits regarding, e.g.
> >
> > commit b507808ebce23561d4ff8c2aa1fb949fe402bc61
> > Author: Joey Gouly <joey.gouly@arm.com>
> > Date:   Thu Jan 19 16:03:43 2023 +0000
> >
> >     mm: implement memory-deny-write-execute as a prctl
> >
> > but what is prctl(PR_SET_MDWE, PR_MDWE*, 0, 0)... expected to return on parisc?
> > EINVAL? ENOTSUP?
> 
> Maybe we can ask Joey or the ARM people what they expect the semantics
> to be.

Looking at https://fossies.org/linux/systemd/src/core/execute.c
 1636
 1637         /* use prctl() if kernel supports it (6.3) */
 1638         r = prctl(PR_SET_MDWE, PR_MDWE_REFUSE_EXEC_GAIN, 0, 0, 0);
 1639         if (r == 0) {
 1640                 log_unit_debug(u, "Enabled MemoryDenyWriteExecute= with PR_SET_MDWE");
 1641                 return 0;
 1642         }
 1643         if (r < 0 && errno != EINVAL)
 1644                 return log_unit_debug_errno(u, errno, "Failed to enable MemoryDenyWriteExecute= with PR_SET_MDWE: %m");
 1645         /* else use seccomp */
 1646         log_unit_debug(u, "Kernel doesn't support PR_SET_MDWE: falling back to seccomp");
 1647
 1648         if (skip_seccomp_unavailable(u, "MemoryDenyWriteExecute="))
 1649                 return 0;
 1650
 1651         return seccomp_memory_deny_write_execute();
 1652 }

it seems this patch/hack might at least not report success:

diff --git a/kernel/sys.c b/kernel/sys.c
index 420d9cb9cc8e..fe4f2162457c 100644
--- a/kernel/sys.c
+++ b/kernel/sys.c
@@ -2384,6 +2384,10 @@ static inline int prctl_set_mdwe(unsigned long bits, unsigned long arg3,
 {
 	unsigned long current_bits;
 
+	/* parisc still needs a writeable stack for older glibc versions */
+	if (IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_PARISC))
+		return -EINVAL;
+
 	if (arg3 || arg4 || arg5)
 		return -EINVAL;
 

A test would be good though, esp. since I don't know what the seccomp()
functions are doing then.

Helge

  reply	other threads:[~2023-11-10 20:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-10-31  4:32 prctl call wrongly succeeds on HPPA? Sam James
2023-11-03 12:53 ` Sam James
2023-11-10 20:01   ` Helge Deller
2023-11-10 20:12     ` John David Anglin
2023-11-10 20:38       ` Helge Deller
2023-11-10 21:08         ` John David Anglin
2023-11-10 21:32           ` Sam James
2023-11-10 22:00             ` John David Anglin
2023-11-10 22:16               ` Sam James
2023-11-10 23:02                 ` John David Anglin
2023-11-17 14:55                   ` Helge Deller
2023-11-17 15:41                     ` John David Anglin
2023-11-18  5:52                       ` Sam James
2023-11-19 12:11                     ` Sam James
2023-11-10 20:12     ` Sam James
2023-11-10 20:25       ` Helge Deller [this message]
2023-11-10 20:31         ` Helge Deller

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