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From: Reinette Chatre <reinette.chatre@intel.com>
To: "Luck, Tony" <tony.luck@intel.com>
Cc: Fenghua Yu <fenghuay@nvidia.com>,
	"Wieczor-Retman, Maciej" <maciej.wieczor-retman@intel.com>,
	Peter Newman <peternewman@google.com>,
	James Morse <james.morse@arm.com>,
	Babu Moger <babu.moger@amd.com>,
	"Drew Fustini" <dfustini@baylibre.com>,
	Dave Martin <Dave.Martin@arm.com>,
	"Chen, Yu C" <yu.c.chen@intel.com>,
	"x86@kernel.org" <x86@kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"patches@lists.linux.dev" <patches@lists.linux.dev>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v11 20/31] fs/resctrl: Refactor Sub-NUMA Cluster (SNC) in mkdir/rmdir code flow
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2025 14:46:07 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1ea9cff4-e93d-4be8-bbe2-308fc05eb3d1@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <SJ1PR11MB608328747C28F736C6DD5FCFFCEEA@SJ1PR11MB6083.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Tony,

On 10/9/25 2:31 PM, Luck, Tony wrote:
>>> There are only two places where SNC mode is checked in this way. The
>>> others rely on seeing that mon_data::sum is set, or that rr->hdr is
>>> NULL. So it seems like a very small improvement.
>>
>> This is not about SNC mode or not but instead about this code being L3
>> resource specific.
>>
>> I see the mon_data::sum and rr->hdr checks as supporting a separate
>> feature that was introduced to support SNC - it should not be used as
>> a check for SNC support even though it currently implies this due to SNC
>> being the only user. Could we not, hypothetically, even use these properties
>> in the region aware MBM work?
>>
>>> If we ever add a node scoped resource that isn't related to SNC, it
>>> would be needed at that point. But I'm not sure why hardware would
>>> ever do that.
>>
>> Right. This is not about just what is needed to enable this feature but
>> about making the code easy to follow for those that attempt to understand,
>> debug, and/or build on top.
> 
> Reinette,
> 
> Region aware MBM work will need to sum things to support legacy resctrl
> "mbm_total_bytes". But while SNC sums across domains that share the
> same cache id inside the same resource, we may be summing across
> different resources (assuming we go with separate resources per region)
> or summing across regions within a domain (if we bundle the regions into a new
> struct rdt_region_mon_domain).
> 
> So __mon_event_count() will need to get additional refactoring and helper
> functions, and struct mon_data an additional field to say that this other
> "sum" function must be used.
> 

I did not mean to imply that this can be supported without refactoring. It does
seem as though you agree that mon_data::sum may be used for something
other than SNC and thus that using mon_data::sum as a check for SNC is not ideal.

Reinette

  reply	other threads:[~2025-10-09 21:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-09-25 20:02 [PATCH v11 00/31] x86,fs/resctrl telemetry monitoring Tony Luck
2025-09-25 20:02 ` [PATCH v11 01/31] x86,fs/resctrl: Improve domain type checking Tony Luck
2025-10-03 15:28   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-09-25 20:02 ` [PATCH v11 02/31] x86/resctrl: Move L3 initialization into new helper function Tony Luck
2025-10-03 15:28   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-09-25 20:02 ` [PATCH v11 03/31] x86,fs/resctrl: Refactor domain_remove_cpu_mon() ready for new domain types Tony Luck
2025-10-03 15:29   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-09-25 20:02 ` [PATCH v11 04/31] x86/resctrl: Clean up domain_remove_cpu_ctrl() Tony Luck
2025-10-03 15:30   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-09-25 20:02 ` [PATCH v11 05/31] x86,fs/resctrl: Refactor domain create/remove using struct rdt_domain_hdr Tony Luck
2025-10-03 15:33   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-10-03 22:55     ` Luck, Tony
2025-10-06 21:32       ` Reinette Chatre
2025-09-25 20:03 ` [PATCH v11 06/31] x86,fs/resctrl: Use struct rdt_domain_hdr when reading counters Tony Luck
2025-10-03 15:34   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-10-03 22:59     ` Luck, Tony
2025-09-25 20:03 ` [PATCH v11 07/31] x86,fs/resctrl: Rename struct rdt_mon_domain and rdt_hw_mon_domain Tony Luck
2025-10-03 23:24   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-09-25 20:03 ` [PATCH v11 08/31] x86,fs/resctrl: Rename some L3 specific functions Tony Luck
2025-10-03 23:24   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-09-25 20:03 ` [PATCH v11 09/31] fs/resctrl: Make event details accessible to functions when reading events Tony Luck
2025-10-03 23:27   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-09-25 20:03 ` [PATCH v11 10/31] x86,fs/resctrl: Handle events that can be read from any CPU Tony Luck
2025-10-03 23:32   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-09-25 20:03 ` [PATCH v11 11/31] x86,fs/resctrl: Support binary fixed point event counters Tony Luck
2025-09-25 20:03 ` [PATCH v11 12/31] x86,fs/resctrl: Add an architectural hook called for each mount Tony Luck
2025-09-25 20:03 ` [PATCH v11 13/31] x86,fs/resctrl: Add and initialize rdt_resource for package scope monitor Tony Luck
2025-09-25 20:03 ` [PATCH v11 14/31] x86/resctrl: Discover hardware telemetry events Tony Luck
2025-10-03 23:35   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-10-06 18:19     ` Luck, Tony
2025-10-06 21:33       ` Reinette Chatre
2025-10-06 21:47         ` Luck, Tony
2025-10-07 20:47           ` Luck, Tony
2025-10-08 17:12             ` Reinette Chatre
2025-10-08 17:20               ` Luck, Tony
2025-09-25 20:03 ` [PATCH v11 15/31] x86,fs/resctrl: Fill in details of events for guid 0x26696143 and 0x26557651 Tony Luck
2025-09-25 20:03 ` [PATCH v11 16/31] x86,fs/resctrl: Add architectural event pointer Tony Luck
2025-10-03 23:38   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-09-25 20:03 ` [PATCH v11 17/31] x86/resctrl: Find and enable usable telemetry events Tony Luck
2025-10-03 23:52   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-10-06 19:58     ` Luck, Tony
2025-10-06 21:33       ` Reinette Chatre
2025-10-06 21:54         ` Luck, Tony
2025-09-25 20:03 ` [PATCH v11 18/31] fs/resctrl: Refactor L3 specific parts of __mon_event_count() Tony Luck
2025-10-03 23:56   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-09-25 20:03 ` [PATCH v11 19/31] x86/resctrl: Read telemetry events Tony Luck
2025-09-25 20:03 ` [PATCH v11 20/31] fs/resctrl: Refactor Sub-NUMA Cluster (SNC) in mkdir/rmdir code flow Tony Luck
2025-10-03 23:58   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-10-06 23:10     ` Luck, Tony
2025-10-08 17:12       ` Reinette Chatre
2025-10-08 21:15         ` Luck, Tony
2025-10-08 22:12           ` Reinette Chatre
2025-10-08 22:29             ` Luck, Tony
2025-10-09  2:16               ` Reinette Chatre
2025-10-09 17:45                 ` Luck, Tony
2025-10-09 20:29                   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-10-09 21:31                     ` Luck, Tony
2025-10-09 21:46                       ` Reinette Chatre [this message]
2025-10-09 22:08                         ` Luck, Tony
2025-10-10  0:16                           ` Reinette Chatre
2025-10-10  1:14                             ` Luck, Tony
2025-10-10  1:54                               ` Reinette Chatre
2025-09-25 20:03 ` [PATCH v11 21/31] x86/resctrl: Handle domain creation/deletion for RDT_RESOURCE_PERF_PKG Tony Luck
2025-10-04  0:00   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-09-25 20:03 ` [PATCH v11 22/31] x86/resctrl: Add energy/perf choices to rdt boot option Tony Luck
2025-09-25 20:03 ` [PATCH v11 23/31] x86/resctrl: Handle number of RMIDs supported by telemetry resources Tony Luck
2025-10-04  0:06   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-09-25 20:03 ` [PATCH v11 24/31] fs/resctrl: Move allocation/free of closid_num_dirty_rmid[] Tony Luck
2025-10-04  0:09   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-09-25 20:03 ` [PATCH v11 25/31] fs,x86/resctrl: Compute number of RMIDs as minimum across resources Tony Luck
2025-10-04  0:10   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-09-25 20:03 ` [PATCH v11 26/31] fs/resctrl: Move RMID initialization to first mount Tony Luck
2025-10-04  0:12   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-09-25 20:03 ` [PATCH v11 27/31] x86/resctrl: Enable RDT_RESOURCE_PERF_PKG Tony Luck
2025-10-04  0:23   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-09-25 20:03 ` [PATCH v11 28/31] fs/resctrl: Provide interface to create architecture specific debugfs area Tony Luck
2025-09-25 20:03 ` [PATCH v11 29/31] x86/resctrl: Add debugfs files to show telemetry aggregator status Tony Luck
2025-10-04  0:23   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-09-25 20:03 ` [PATCH v11 30/31] x86,fs/resctrl: Update Documentation for package events Tony Luck
2025-10-04  0:25   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-09-25 20:03 ` [PATCH v11 31/31] fs/resctrl: Some kerneldoc updates Tony Luck
2025-10-04  0:26   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-10-06 16:54     ` Luck, Tony
2025-10-06 21:34       ` Reinette Chatre

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