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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
To: Nicolin Chen <nicolinc@nvidia.com>
Cc: Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	iommu@lists.linux.dev, Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>,
	Justin Stitt <justinstitt@google.com>,
	Kevin Tian <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org,
	llvm@lists.linux.dev, Bill Wendling <morbo@google.com>,
	Nathan Chancellor <nathan@kernel.org>,
	Nick Desaulniers <nick.desaulniers+lkml@gmail.com>,
	Miguel Ojeda <ojeda@kernel.org>,
	Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
	Shuah Khan <shuah@kernel.org>,
	Suravee Suthikulpanit <suravee.suthikulpanit@amd.com>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>, Alexey Kardashevskiy <aik@amd.com>,
	Alejandro Jimenez <alejandro.j.jimenez@oracle.com>,
	James Gowans <jgowans@amazon.com>,
	Michael Roth <michael.roth@amd.com>,
	Pasha Tatashin <pasha.tatashin@soleen.com>,
	patches@lists.linux.dev
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 01/15] genpt: Generic Page Table base API
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2025 12:51:52 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250915155152.GC1057776@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aMDzLC9nV47Xvud9@nvidia.com>

On Tue, Sep 09, 2025 at 08:40:28PM -0700, Nicolin Chen wrote:
> > + *  level
> > + *     The number of table hops from the lowest leaf. Level 0
> > + *     is always a table of only leaves of the least significant VA bits. The
> 
> Hmm, I am a bit confused here. I thought "leaf" was meant to be a
> "leaf" table? But here "a table of only leaves" makes it feel like
> a "leaf" table entry?

How aboutL:

 *  level
 *     Level 0 is always a table of only leaves with no futher table pointers.
 *     Increasing levels increase the size of the table items. The least
 *     significant VA bits used to index page tables are used to index the Level
 *     0 table. The various labels for table levels used by HW descriptions are
 *     not used.


> > + *  table
> > + *     A linear array of entries representing the translation items for that
> > + *     level.
> > + *  index
> > + *     The position in a table of an element: item = table[index]
> > + *  item
> > + *     A single position in a table
> > + *  entry
> > + *     A single logical element in a table. If contiguous pages are not
> > + *     supported then item and entry are the same thing, otherwise entry refers
> > + *     to the all the items that comprise a single contiguous translation.
> 
> So, an "entry" is a group of "items" if contiguous pages (huge
> page?) are supported. 

Yes

> Then, the "entry" sounds like a physical (v.s. "logical") table
> entry, e.g. a PTE that we usually say?

I choose entry because it is related to PTE and in most cases you want
to work on the entries. The replication of entry to item is somewhat
hidden.

From a HW perspective the TLB should be loading entries.

> > +#if !IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_GENERIC_ATOMIC64)
> > +static inline bool pt_table_install64(struct pt_state *pts, u64 table_entry)
> > +{
> > +	u64 *entryp = pt_cur_table(pts, u64) + pts->index;
> > +	u64 old_entry = pts->entry;
> > +	bool ret;
> > +
> > +	/*
> > +	 * Ensure the zero'd table content itself is visible before its PTE can
> > +	 * be. release is a NOP on !SMP, but the HW is still doing an acquire.
> > +	 */
> > +	if (!IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_SMP))
> > +		dma_wmb();
> 
> Mind elaborating why SMP doesn't need this?

The command says the "relase is a NOP" it means this:

	ret = try_cmpxchg64_release(entryp, &old_entry, table_entry);

On SMP release does an actual release, on UP it doesn't have a
barrier.

> Otherwise, these validations wouldn't be effective?
> 
> drivers/iommu/generic_pt/pt_iter.h:388: if (PT_WARN_ON(!pts->table_lower))
> drivers/iommu/generic_pt/pt_iter.h-389-         return -EINVAL;

Right, when PT_WARN_ON is disabled it does nothing and never evaluates
its expression. All the branches like the above are removed.

Jason

  reply	other threads:[~2025-09-15 15:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-09-03 17:46 [PATCH v5 00/15] Consolidate iommu page table implementations (AMD) Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-03 17:46 ` [PATCH v5 01/15] genpt: Generic Page Table base API Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-10  3:40   ` Nicolin Chen
2025-09-15 15:51     ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2025-09-18  7:14       ` Nicolin Chen
2025-09-18 14:49         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-18 19:43           ` Nicolin Chen
2025-09-18  6:49   ` Tian, Kevin
2025-09-18 18:06     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-19  8:11       ` Tian, Kevin
2025-09-19 14:31         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-24  9:20           ` Tian, Kevin
2025-09-22 14:45   ` [External] : " ALOK TIWARI
2025-09-22 17:05     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-03 17:46 ` [PATCH v5 02/15] genpt: Add Documentation/ files Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-11  4:23   ` Nicolin Chen
2025-09-15 15:42     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-18  6:55   ` Tian, Kevin
2025-09-19 14:42     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-24  9:21       ` Tian, Kevin
2025-09-03 17:46 ` [PATCH v5 03/15] iommupt: Add the basic structure of the iommu implementation Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-11  5:38   ` Nicolin Chen
2025-09-15 15:36     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-18  6:58   ` Tian, Kevin
2025-09-19 15:26     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-24  9:22       ` Tian, Kevin
2025-09-03 17:46 ` [PATCH v5 04/15] iommupt: Add the AMD IOMMU v1 page table format Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-18  7:05   ` Tian, Kevin
2025-09-19 18:19     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-24  9:23       ` Tian, Kevin
2025-10-07 12:28     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-10-08  9:43   ` Vasant Hegde
2025-10-08 13:08     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-10-09 11:44       ` Vasant Hegde
2025-09-03 17:46 ` [PATCH v5 05/15] iommupt: Add iova_to_phys op Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-18  7:08   ` Tian, Kevin
2025-09-19 18:35     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-03 17:46 ` [PATCH v5 06/15] iommupt: Add unmap_pages op Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-24  9:28   ` Tian, Kevin
2025-09-24 12:23     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-26  7:23       ` Tian, Kevin
2025-09-03 17:46 ` [PATCH v5 07/15] iommupt: Add map_pages op Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-26  7:47   ` Tian, Kevin
2025-09-29 16:44     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-10-07 12:08   ` Vasant Hegde
2025-10-07 13:11     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-10-08  9:52       ` Vasant Hegde
2025-09-03 17:46 ` [PATCH v5 08/15] iommupt: Add read_and_clear_dirty op Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-26  7:48   ` Tian, Kevin
2025-09-03 17:46 ` [PATCH v5 09/15] iommupt: Add a kunit test for Generic Page Table Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-03 17:46 ` [PATCH v5 10/15] iommupt: Add a mock pagetable format for iommufd selftest to use Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-26  7:50   ` Tian, Kevin
2025-09-03 17:46 ` [PATCH v5 11/15] iommufd: Change the selftest to use iommupt instead of xarray Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-03 17:46 ` [PATCH v5 12/15] iommupt: Add the x86 64 bit page table format Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-26  7:57   ` Tian, Kevin
2025-09-29 16:17     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-10-08 10:05   ` Vasant Hegde
2025-10-08 13:03     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-10-09 11:43       ` Vasant Hegde
2025-09-03 17:46 ` [PATCH v5 13/15] iommu/amd: Use the generic iommu page table Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-25 12:07   ` Ankit Soni
2025-09-25 12:32     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-25 12:39       ` Ankit Soni
2025-10-08  9:47   ` Vasant Hegde
2025-09-03 17:46 ` [PATCH v5 14/15] iommu/amd: Remove AMD io_pgtable support Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-03 17:46 ` [PATCH v5 15/15] iommupt: Add a kunit test for the IOMMU implementation Jason Gunthorpe

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