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From: Baolu Lu <baolu.lu@linux.intel.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
Cc: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	iommu@lists.linux.dev, Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>,
	Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>, Kevin Tian <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
	patches@lists.linux.dev, Tina Zhang <tina.zhang@intel.com>,
	Wei Wang <wei.w.wang@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 04/10] iommupt: Flush the CPU cache after any writes to the page table
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2025 10:17:49 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5f7f2727-f1ba-413e-89de-958256b0002d@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250922144216.GA1391379@nvidia.com>

On 9/22/25 22:42, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 22, 2025 at 10:12:15AM +0800, Baolu Lu wrote:
>> On 8/27/25 01:26, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
>>> @@ -195,6 +218,10 @@ static void record_dirty(struct pt_state *pts,
>>>    				dirty_len);
>>>    	if (!(dirty->flags & IOMMU_DIRTY_NO_CLEAR)) {
>>> +		/*
>>> +		 * No write log required because DMA incoherence and atomic
>>> +		 * dirty tracking bits can't work together
>>> +		 */
>>
>> Could you elaborate a bit on this comment? Is this a hardware or
>> software requirement?
> 
> dirty tracking relies on some kind of atomic operation coherent
> between the IOMMU and CPU. AFAIK this is not possible on any arch
> unless the IOMMU is working coherently.

Yes, fair enough.

> 
>> Are there any software checks or enforcement in
>> the subsystem?
> 
> I expect the iommu drivers to exclude this combination.

For VT-d driver, perhaps we could add below check:

diff --git a/drivers/iommu/intel/iommu.c b/drivers/iommu/intel/iommu.c
index dff2d895b8ab..563ded2eb3b3 100644
--- a/drivers/iommu/intel/iommu.c
+++ b/drivers/iommu/intel/iommu.c
@@ -3370,7 +3370,7 @@ intel_iommu_domain_alloc_second_stage(struct 
device *dev,
         if (((flags & IOMMU_HWPT_ALLOC_NEST_PARENT) &&
              !nested_supported(iommu)) ||
             ((flags & IOMMU_HWPT_ALLOC_DIRTY_TRACKING) &&
-            !ssads_supported(iommu)))
+            (!ssads_supported(iommu) || !ecap_smpwc(iommu->ecap))))
                 return ERR_PTR(-EOPNOTSUPP);

         /* Legacy mode always supports second stage */

Thanks,
baolu

  reply	other threads:[~2025-09-23  2:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-26 17:26 [PATCH v2 00/10] Convert Intel VT-D to use the generic iommu page table Jason Gunthorpe
2025-08-26 17:26 ` [PATCH v2 01/10] iommu/pages: Add support for a incoherent IOMMU page walker Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-21  9:54   ` Baolu Lu
2025-09-22 16:32     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-10-14  7:41   ` Tian, Kevin
2025-08-26 17:26 ` [PATCH v2 02/10] iommupt: Add basic support for SW bits in the page table Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-21 10:21   ` Baolu Lu
2025-10-14  7:45   ` Tian, Kevin
2025-10-21 13:18     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-08-26 17:26 ` [PATCH v2 03/10] iommupt: Use the incoherent start/stop functions for PT_FEAT_DMA_INCOHERENT Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-21 13:29   ` Baolu Lu
2025-10-14  7:51   ` Tian, Kevin
2025-10-21 13:20     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-08-26 17:26 ` [PATCH v2 04/10] iommupt: Flush the CPU cache after any writes to the page table Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-22  2:12   ` Baolu Lu
2025-09-22 14:42     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-23  2:17       ` Baolu Lu [this message]
2025-09-23 14:10         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-24  2:30           ` Baolu Lu
2025-09-22  2:31   ` Baolu Lu
2025-09-22 14:44     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-23  2:29       ` Baolu Lu
2025-09-23 14:13         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-24  3:05           ` Baolu Lu
2025-10-14  7:53   ` Tian, Kevin
2025-10-21 13:50     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-08-26 17:26 ` [PATCH v2 05/10] iommupt: Add the Intel VT-D second stage page table format Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-22  3:06   ` Baolu Lu
2025-10-14  7:54   ` Tian, Kevin
2025-10-21 13:58     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-08-26 17:26 ` [PATCH v2 06/10] iommupt/x86: Set the dirty bit only for writable PTEs Jason Gunthorpe
2025-10-14  7:55   ` Tian, Kevin
2025-08-26 17:26 ` [PATCH v2 07/10] iommupt/x86: Support SW bits and permit PT_FEAT_DMA_INCOHERENT Jason Gunthorpe
2025-10-14  7:55   ` Tian, Kevin
2025-08-26 17:26 ` [PATCH v2 08/10] iommu/vt-d: Use the generic iommu page table Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-22 11:17   ` Baolu Lu
2025-10-14  7:55   ` Tian, Kevin
2025-08-26 17:26 ` [PATCH v2 09/10] iommu/vt-d: Follow PT_FEAT_DMA_INCOHERENT into the PASID entry Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-22 13:00   ` Baolu Lu
2025-10-14  7:58   ` Tian, Kevin
2025-08-26 17:26 ` [PATCH v2 10/10] iommupt: Add a kunit test for the SW bits Jason Gunthorpe
2025-10-14  7:58   ` Tian, Kevin

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