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From: Nuno Das Neves <nunodasneves@linux.microsoft.com>
To: Alex Ionescu <aionescu@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-hyperv@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 14/15] asm-generic: hyperv: Use new Hyper-V headers conditionally.
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2023 17:41:02 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <749f477a-1e7a-495e-bea1-e3abe8da7fb9@linux.microsoft.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJ-90NKJ=FViuuy2MyA-8S1j9Lsia8bR-ytZuAr=pOPuAiO0VQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Alex,

On 10/2/2023 12:35 PM, Alex Ionescu wrote:
> Hi Nuno,
> 
> I understand the requirement to have
> undocumented/non-standard/non-TLFS-published information in the HDK
> headers, however, the current state of this patch is that for any
> other code that's not in the kernel today, or in this upcoming driver,
> the hyperv-tlfs definitions are incomplete, because some *documented*
> TLFS fields are only in HDK headers. Similarly, it is also impossible

If I understand correctly, you are saying there are documented
definitions (in the TLFS document), which are NOT in hyperv-tlfs.h, but
ARE in these new HDK headers, correct?

If these are needed elsewhere in the kernel, they can just be added to
hyperv-tlfs.h.

> to only use the HDK headers for other use cases, because some basic
> documented, standard defines only exist in hyperv-tlfs. So there is no
> "logical" relationship between the two -- HDK headers are not _just_
> undocumented information, but also documented information, but also
> not complete documented information.

That is correct - they are meant to be independently compileable.
The new HDK headers only serve as a replacement *in our driver* when we
need some definitions like do_hypercall() etc in mshyperv.h.

> 
> Would you consider:
> 
> 1) Updating hyperv-tlfs with all newly documented TLFS fields that are
> in the HDK headers?

I think this can be done on an as-needed basis, as I outlined above.

> OR
> 2) Updating the new HDK headers you're adding here to also include
> previously-documented information from hyperv-tlfs? This way, someone
> can include the HDK headers and get everything they need

The new HDK headers are only intended for the new mshv driver.

> OR
> 3) Truly making hypertv-tlfs the "documented" header, and then > removing any duplication from HDK so that it remains the
> "undocumented" header file. In this manner, one would include
> hyperv-tlfs to use the stable ABI, and they would include HDK (which
> would include hyperv-tlfs) to use the unstable+stable ABI.

hyperv-tlfs.h is remaining the "documented" header.

But, we can't make the HDK header depend on hyperv-tlfs.h, for 2 primary
reasons:
1. We need to put the new HDK headers in uapi so that we can use them in 
our IOCTL interface. As a result, we can't include hyperv-tlfs.h (unless 
we put it in uapi as well).
2. The HDK headers not only duplicate, but also MODIFY some structures 
in hyperv-tlfs.h. e.g., The struct is in hyperv-tlfs.h, but a particular
field or bitfield is not.

Thanks,
Nuno

> 
> Thank you for your consideration.
> 
> Best regards,
> Alex Ionescu
> 
> On Fri, Sep 29, 2023 at 2:02 PM Nuno Das Neves
> <nunodasneves@linux.microsoft.com> wrote:
>>
>> Add asm-generic/hyperv-defs.h. It includes hyperv-tlfs.h or hvhdk.h
>> depending on compile-time constant HV_HYPERV_DEFS which will be defined in
>> the mshv driver.
>>
>> This is needed to keep unstable Hyper-V interfaces independent of
>> hyperv-tlfs.h. This ensures hvhdk.h replaces hyperv-tlfs.h in the mshv
>> driver, even via indirect includes.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Nuno Das Neves <nunodasneves@linux.microsoft.com>
>> Acked-by: Wei Liu <wei.liu@kernel.org>
>> ---
>>   arch/arm64/include/asm/mshyperv.h |  2 +-
>>   arch/x86/include/asm/mshyperv.h   |  3 +--
>>   drivers/hv/hyperv_vmbus.h         |  1 -
>>   include/asm-generic/hyperv-defs.h | 26 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>   include/asm-generic/mshyperv.h    |  2 +-
>>   include/linux/hyperv.h            |  2 +-
>>   6 files changed, 30 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-)
>>   create mode 100644 include/asm-generic/hyperv-defs.h
>>
>> diff --git a/arch/arm64/include/asm/mshyperv.h b/arch/arm64/include/asm/mshyperv.h
>> index 20070a847304..8ec14caf3d4f 100644
>> --- a/arch/arm64/include/asm/mshyperv.h
>> +++ b/arch/arm64/include/asm/mshyperv.h
>> @@ -20,7 +20,7 @@
>>
>>   #include <linux/types.h>
>>   #include <linux/arm-smccc.h>
>> -#include <asm/hyperv-tlfs.h>
>> +#include <asm-generic/hyperv-defs.h>
>>
>>   /*
>>    * Declare calls to get and set Hyper-V VP register values on ARM64, which
>> diff --git a/arch/x86/include/asm/mshyperv.h b/arch/x86/include/asm/mshyperv.h
>> index e3768d787065..bb1b97106cd3 100644
>> --- a/arch/x86/include/asm/mshyperv.h
>> +++ b/arch/x86/include/asm/mshyperv.h
>> @@ -6,10 +6,9 @@
>>   #include <linux/nmi.h>
>>   #include <linux/msi.h>
>>   #include <linux/io.h>
>> -#include <asm/hyperv-tlfs.h>
>>   #include <asm/nospec-branch.h>
>>   #include <asm/paravirt.h>
>> -#include <asm/mshyperv.h>
>> +#include <asm-generic/hyperv-defs.h>
>>
>>   /*
>>    * Hyper-V always provides a single IO-APIC at this MMIO address.
>> diff --git a/drivers/hv/hyperv_vmbus.h b/drivers/hv/hyperv_vmbus.h
>> index 09792eb4ffed..0e4bc18a13fa 100644
>> --- a/drivers/hv/hyperv_vmbus.h
>> +++ b/drivers/hv/hyperv_vmbus.h
>> @@ -15,7 +15,6 @@
>>   #include <linux/list.h>
>>   #include <linux/bitops.h>
>>   #include <asm/sync_bitops.h>
>> -#include <asm/hyperv-tlfs.h>
>>   #include <linux/atomic.h>
>>   #include <linux/hyperv.h>
>>   #include <linux/interrupt.h>
>> diff --git a/include/asm-generic/hyperv-defs.h b/include/asm-generic/hyperv-defs.h
>> new file mode 100644
>> index 000000000000..ac6fcba35c8c
>> --- /dev/null
>> +++ b/include/asm-generic/hyperv-defs.h
>> @@ -0,0 +1,26 @@
>> +/* SPDX-License-Identifier: GPL-2.0 */
>> +#ifndef _ASM_GENERIC_HYPERV_DEFS_H
>> +#define _ASM_GENERIC_HYPERV_DEFS_H
>> +
>> +/*
>> + * There are cases where Microsoft Hypervisor ABIs are needed which may not be
>> + * stable or present in the Hyper-V TLFS document. E.g. the mshv_root driver.
>> + *
>> + * As these interfaces are unstable and may differ from hyperv-tlfs.h, they
>> + * must be kept separate and independent.
>> + *
>> + * However, code from files that depend on hyperv-tlfs.h (such as mshyperv.h)
>> + * is still needed, so work around the issue by conditionally including the
>> + * correct definitions.
>> + *
>> + * Note: Since they are independent of each other, there are many definitions
>> + * duplicated in both hyperv-tlfs.h and uapi/hyperv/hv*.h files.
>> + */
>> +#ifdef HV_HYPERV_DEFS
>> +#include <uapi/hyperv/hvhdk.h>
>> +#else
>> +#include <asm/hyperv-tlfs.h>
>> +#endif
>> +
>> +#endif /* _ASM_GENERIC_HYPERV_DEFS_H */
>> +
>> diff --git a/include/asm-generic/mshyperv.h b/include/asm-generic/mshyperv.h
>> index d832852d0ee7..6bef0d59d1b7 100644
>> --- a/include/asm-generic/mshyperv.h
>> +++ b/include/asm-generic/mshyperv.h
>> @@ -25,7 +25,7 @@
>>   #include <linux/cpumask.h>
>>   #include <linux/nmi.h>
>>   #include <asm/ptrace.h>
>> -#include <asm/hyperv-tlfs.h>
>> +#include <asm-generic/hyperv-defs.h>
>>
>>   #define VTPM_BASE_ADDRESS 0xfed40000
>>
>> diff --git a/include/linux/hyperv.h b/include/linux/hyperv.h
>> index 4d5a5e39d76c..722a8cf23d87 100644
>> --- a/include/linux/hyperv.h
>> +++ b/include/linux/hyperv.h
>> @@ -24,7 +24,7 @@
>>   #include <linux/mod_devicetable.h>
>>   #include <linux/interrupt.h>
>>   #include <linux/reciprocal_div.h>
>> -#include <asm/hyperv-tlfs.h>
>> +#include <asm-generic/hyperv-defs.h>
>>
>>   #define MAX_PAGE_BUFFER_COUNT                          32
>>   #define MAX_MULTIPAGE_BUFFER_COUNT                     32 /* 128K */
>> --
>> 2.25.1
>>
>>


  reply	other threads:[~2023-10-03  0:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-09-29 18:01 [PATCH v4 00/15] Introduce /dev/mshv drivers Nuno Das Neves
2023-09-29 18:01 ` [PATCH v4 01/15] hyperv-tlfs: Change shared HV_REGISTER_* defines to HV_MSR_* Nuno Das Neves
2023-09-29 18:01 ` [PATCH v4 02/15] mshyperv: Introduce hv_get_hypervisor_version function Nuno Das Neves
2023-09-29 18:01 ` [PATCH v4 03/15] mshyperv: Introduce numa_node_to_proximity_domain_info Nuno Das Neves
2023-09-29 18:01 ` [PATCH v4 04/15] asm-generic/mshyperv: Introduce hv_recommend_using_aeoi() Nuno Das Neves
2023-09-29 18:01 ` [PATCH v4 05/15] hyperv: Move hv_connection_id to hyperv-tlfs Nuno Das Neves
2023-09-29 18:01 ` [PATCH v4 06/15] hyperv-tlfs: Introduce hv_status_to_string and hv_status_to_errno Nuno Das Neves
2023-09-29 18:01 ` [PATCH v4 07/15] Drivers: hv: Move hv_call_deposit_pages and hv_call_create_vp to common code Nuno Das Neves
2023-10-03  2:51   ` kernel test robot
2023-09-29 18:01 ` [PATCH v4 08/15] Drivers: hv: Introduce per-cpu event ring tail Nuno Das Neves
2023-09-30 11:26   ` kernel test robot
2023-09-29 18:01 ` [PATCH v4 09/15] Drivers: hv: Introduce hv_output_arg_exists in hv_common.c Nuno Das Neves
2023-10-02 19:29   ` Alex Ionescu
2023-10-04 18:27     ` Nuno Das Neves
2023-10-06 18:13       ` Long Li
2023-09-29 18:01 ` [PATCH v4 10/15] x86: hyperv: Add mshv_handler irq handler and setup function Nuno Das Neves
2023-09-29 18:01 ` [PATCH v4 11/15] Drivers: hv: export vmbus_isr, hv_context and hv_post_message Nuno Das Neves
2023-09-29 18:01 ` [PATCH v4 12/15] Documentation: Reserve ioctl number for mshv driver Nuno Das Neves
2023-09-29 18:01 ` [PATCH v4 13/15] uapi: hyperv: Add mshv driver headers defining hypervisor ABIs Nuno Das Neves
2023-09-30  6:09   ` Greg KH
2023-09-30 22:01     ` Wei Liu
2023-10-01  6:19       ` Greg KH
2023-10-03 23:29         ` Wei Liu
2023-10-04  6:11           ` Greg KH
2023-10-04 18:14             ` Wei Liu
2023-10-05  3:59             ` Wei Liu
2023-10-03 23:37         ` Nuno Das Neves
2023-10-04  6:09           ` Greg KH
2023-10-04 17:36             ` Dexuan Cui
2023-10-04 17:50               ` Greg KH
2023-10-04 18:16                 ` Nuno Das Neves
2023-10-05  6:26                   ` Greg KH
2023-09-30 16:33   ` kernel test robot
2023-10-05 10:27   ` Greg KH
2023-09-29 18:01 ` [PATCH v4 14/15] asm-generic: hyperv: Use new Hyper-V headers conditionally Nuno Das Neves
2023-10-02 19:35   ` Alex Ionescu
2023-10-03  0:41     ` Nuno Das Neves [this message]
2023-10-05 19:52       ` Alex Ionescu
2023-10-11 23:32         ` Nuno Das Neves
2023-09-29 18:01 ` [PATCH v4 15/15] Drivers: hv: Add modules to expose /dev/mshv to VMMs running on Hyper-V Nuno Das Neves
2023-09-30  6:02   ` kernel test robot
2023-09-30  6:11   ` Greg KH
2023-09-30 18:11     ` Wei Liu
2023-09-30 18:31       ` Greg KH
2023-09-30 21:13         ` Wei Liu
2023-10-01  6:20           ` Greg KH
2023-10-03 23:35             ` Wei Liu
2023-11-06  4:03   ` kernel test robot
2023-11-06 11:51   ` kernel test robot

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