From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from casper.infradead.org (casper.infradead.org [90.155.50.34]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4F31B1F5E9 for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2023 18:15:56 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infradead.org; s=casper.20170209; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Type:MIME-Version: References:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date:Sender:Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description; bh=bJs8GAFpWgBUplH+H7BOE7c4QYwKvsPnLGmmT4zwnIE=; b=Vr34XwU7ZL4fQoEk9kow9Lq+5x cRKNFtvrvhOEQ3CNMowCtrLeWe6RdRDsn8q+wXZkHUKQ+EC2Ay4FbU3uI0QYkAhlMk1GYKSEbBOC7 35nnx6LP33x6UkTwxvuFE8VAbkOgb5PRVCaKsJaiclQW6PGoKPdqdyVYBLkAo85YMwKZbFdqXI7MX wCp7xK9d5Qrio0pLxEJmtEYuHIuIKmCjPj2FrU2lamMPmBQST+NLbNecBFcBZ2AvY/pJfVTaadbZ7 mA9EUmzWV4aNZ2CDu69HYwwY4Eji+odGQ4RHg7C5fWGNM+WD9rsw9weOD9uwo/zuLY4+CBABHVUPC vedOj9hg==; Received: from willy by casper.infradead.org with local (Exim 4.94.2 #2 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1qiImS-00CU5P-Dl; Mon, 18 Sep 2023 18:15:32 +0000 Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2023 19:15:32 +0100 From: Matthew Wilcox To: Luis Chamberlain Cc: hch@infradead.org, djwong@kernel.org, dchinner@redhat.com, kbusch@kernel.org, sagi@grimberg.me, axboe@fb.com, brauner@kernel.org, hare@suse.de, ritesh.list@gmail.com, rgoldwyn@suse.com, jack@suse.cz, ziy@nvidia.com, ryan.roberts@arm.com, patches@lists.linux.dev, linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-block@vger.kernel.org, p.raghav@samsung.com, da.gomez@samsung.com, dan.helmick@samsung.com Subject: Re: [RFC v2 00/10] bdev: LBS devices support to coexist with buffer-heads Message-ID: References: <20230915213254.2724586-1-mcgrof@kernel.org> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: patches@lists.linux.dev List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: On Mon, Sep 18, 2023 at 10:12:04AM -0700, Luis Chamberlain wrote: > On Fri, Sep 15, 2023 at 10:51:12PM +0100, Matthew Wilcox wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 15, 2023 at 02:32:44PM -0700, Luis Chamberlain wrote: > > > However, an issue is that disabling CONFIG_BUFFER_HEAD in practice is not viable > > > for many Linux distributions since it also means disabling support for most > > > filesystems other than btrfs and XFS. So we either support larger order folios > > > on buffer-heads, or we draw up a solution to enable co-existence. Since at LSFMM > > > 2023 it was decided we would not support larger order folios on buffer-heads, > > > > Um, I didn't agree to that. > > Coverage on sunsetting buffer-heads talk by LWN: > > https://lwn.net/Articles/931809/ > > "the apparent conclusion from the session: the buffer-head layer will be > converted to use folios internally while minimizing changes visible to > the filesystems using it. Only single-page folios will be used within > this new buffer-head layer. Any other desires, he said, can be addressed > later after this problem has been solved." Other people said that. Not me. I said it was fine for single buffer_head per folio.