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From: Nicolin Chen <nicolinc@nvidia.com>
To: "Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 4/5] iommu: Introduce iommu_dev_reset_prepare() and iommu_dev_reset_done()
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2025 10:26:52 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aRd0bIFlbRgIzGKs@Asurada-Nvidia> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BN9PR11MB527683978D304128441125C68CCAA@BN9PR11MB5276.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>

On Fri, Nov 14, 2025 at 09:37:27AM +0000, Tian, Kevin wrote:
> > From: Nicolin Chen <nicolinc@nvidia.com>
> > @@ -2195,6 +2200,12 @@ int iommu_deferred_attach(struct device *dev,
> > struct iommu_domain *domain)
> > 
> >  	guard(mutex)(&dev->iommu_group->mutex);
> > 
> > +	/*
> > +	 * This is a concurrent attach while a group device is resetting. Reject
> > +	 * it until iommu_dev_reset_done() attaches the device to group-
> > >domain.
> > +	 */
> > +	if (dev->iommu_group->resetting_domain)
> > +		return -EBUSY;
> 
> It might be worth noting that failing a deferred attach leads to failing
> the dma map operation. It's different from other explicit attaching paths,
> but there is nothing more we can do here.

OK.
	/*
	 * This is a concurrent attach while a group device is resetting. Reject
	 * it until iommu_dev_reset_done() attaches the device to group->domain.
	 *
	 * Worth noting that this may fail the dma map operation. But there is
	 * nothing more we can do here.
	 */


> > @@ -2253,6 +2264,16 @@ struct iommu_domain
> > *iommu_driver_get_domain_for_dev(struct device *dev)
> > 
> >  	lockdep_assert_held(&group->mutex);
> > 
> > +	/*
> > +	 * Driver handles the low-level __iommu_attach_device(), including
> > the
> > +	 * one invoked by iommu_dev_reset_done(), in which case the driver
> > must
> > +	 * get the resetting_domain over group->domain caching the one
> > prior to
> > +	 * iommu_dev_reset_prepare(), so that it wouldn't end up with
> > attaching
> > +	 * the device from group->domain (old) to group->domain (new).
> > +	 */
> > +	if (group->resetting_domain)
> > +		return group->resetting_domain;
> 
> It's a pretty long sentence. Let's break it.

OK.
	/*
	 * Driver handles the low-level __iommu_attach_device(), including the
	 * one invoked by iommu_dev_reset_done() that reattaches the device to
	 * the cached group->domain. In this case, the driver must get the old
	 * domain from group->resetting_domain rather than group->domain. This
	 * prevents it from reattaching the device from group->domain (old) to
	 * group->domain (new).
	 */

>> +int iommu_dev_reset_prepare(struct device *dev)
>
> If this is intended to be used by pci for now, it's clearer to have a 'pci'
> word in the name. Later when there is a demand calling it from other
> buses, discussion will catch eyes to ensure no racy of UAF etc.

Well, if we make it exclusive for PCI. Perhaps just move these two
from pci.c to iommu.c:

int pci_reset_iommu_prepare(struct pci_dev *dev);
void pci_reset_iommu_done(struct pci_dev *dev);

> > +	/*
> > +	 * Once the resetting_domain is set, any concurrent attachment to
> > this
> > +	 * iommu_group will be rejected, which would break the attach
> > routines
> > +	 * of the sibling devices in the same iommu_group. So, skip this case.
> > +	 */
> > +	if (dev_is_pci(dev)) {
> > +		struct group_device *gdev;
> > +
> > +		for_each_group_device(group, gdev) {
> > +			if (gdev->dev != dev)
> > +				return 0;
> > +		}
> > +	}
> 
> btw what'd be a real impact to reject concurrent attachment for sibling
> devices? This series already documents the impact in uAPI for the device
> under attachment, and the userspace already knows the restriction 
> of devices in the group which must be attached to a same hwpt.
> 
> Combining those knowledge I don't think there is a problem for 
> userspace to be aware of that resetting a device in a multi-dev
> group affects concurrent attachment of sibling devices...

It's following Jason's remarks:
https://lore.kernel.org/linux-iommu/20250915125357.GH1024672@nvidia.com/

Perhaps we should add that to the uAPI, given the race condition
that you mentioned below.

> > +	/* Re-attach RID domain back to group->domain */
> > +	if (group->domain != group->blocking_domain) {
> > +		WARN_ON(__iommu_attach_device(group->domain, dev,
> > +					      group->blocking_domain));
> > +	}
> 
> Even if we disallow resetting on a multi-dev group, there is still a
> corner case not taken care here.
> 
> It's possible that there is only one device in the group at prepare,
> coming with a device hotplug added to the group in the middle,
> then doing reset_done.
> 
> In this case the newly-added device will inherit the blocking domain.
> 
> Then reset_done should loop all devices in the group and re-attach
> all of them to the cached domain.

Oh, that's a good catch!

I will address all of your notes.

Thank you
Nicolin

  reply	other threads:[~2025-11-14 18:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-11-11  5:12 [PATCH v5 0/5] Disable ATS via iommu during PCI resets Nicolin Chen
2025-11-11  5:12 ` [PATCH v5 1/5] iommu: Lock group->mutex in iommu_deferred_attach() Nicolin Chen
2025-11-12  2:47   ` Baolu Lu
2025-11-11  5:12 ` [PATCH v5 2/5] iommu: Tiny domain for iommu_setup_dma_ops() Nicolin Chen
2025-11-12  5:22   ` Baolu Lu
2025-11-14  9:17   ` Tian, Kevin
2025-11-14  9:18   ` Tian, Kevin
2025-11-11  5:12 ` [PATCH v5 3/5] iommu: Add iommu_driver_get_domain_for_dev() helper Nicolin Chen
2025-11-12  5:58   ` Baolu Lu
2025-11-12 17:41     ` Nicolin Chen
2025-11-18  7:02       ` Nicolin Chen
2025-11-19  2:47         ` Baolu Lu
2025-11-19  2:57           ` Nicolin Chen
2025-11-12  8:52   ` kernel test robot
2025-11-14  9:18   ` Tian, Kevin
2025-11-11  5:12 ` [PATCH v5 4/5] iommu: Introduce iommu_dev_reset_prepare() and iommu_dev_reset_done() Nicolin Chen
2025-11-12  6:18   ` Baolu Lu
2025-11-12 17:43     ` Nicolin Chen
2025-11-14  9:37   ` Tian, Kevin
2025-11-14 18:26     ` Nicolin Chen [this message]
2025-11-17  4:59   ` Tian, Kevin
2025-11-17 19:27     ` Nicolin Chen
2025-11-17 23:04   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-11-11  5:12 ` [PATCH v5 5/5] pci: Suspend iommu function prior to resetting a device Nicolin Chen
2025-11-14  9:45   ` Tian, Kevin
2025-11-14 18:00     ` Nicolin Chen
2025-11-17  4:52       ` Tian, Kevin
2025-11-17 19:26         ` Nicolin Chen
2025-11-18  0:29           ` Tian, Kevin
2025-11-18  1:42             ` Nicolin Chen
2025-11-18  5:38               ` Baolu Lu
2025-11-18  6:53                 ` Nicolin Chen
2025-11-18  7:53               ` Tian, Kevin
2025-11-18  8:17                 ` Nicolin Chen
2025-11-17 22:58   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-11-18  8:16     ` Nicolin Chen

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