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From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
Cc: Lorenzo Pieralisi <lpieralisi@kernel.org>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	alex.williamson@redhat.com, osamaabb@amazon.com,
	linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, Clint Sbisa <csbisa@amazon.com>,
	catalin.marinas@arm.com, maz@kernel.org
Subject: Re: VFIO (PCI) and write combine mapping of BARs
Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2023 11:19:18 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <012cb915ae0ce3a32f1608400cf6389a03f2aa7d.camel@kernel.crashing.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZL+0h9gvJGTyWKZX@nvidia.com>

On Tue, 2023-07-25 at 08:39 -0300, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 25, 2023 at 04:15:39PM +1000, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> > > Assuming this is for #2, I think VFIO has fallen into a bit of a trap
> > > by allowing userspace to form the mmap offset. I've seen this happen
> > > in other subsystems too. It seems like a good idea then you realize
> > > you need more stuff in the mmap space and become sad.
> > > 
> > > Typically the way out is to covert the mmap offset into a cookie where
> > > userspace issues some ioctl and then the ioctl returns an opaque mmap
> > > offset to use.
> > > 
> > > eg in the vfio context you'd do some 'prepare region for mmap' ioctl
> > > where you could specify flags. The kernel would encode the flags in
> > > the cookie and then mmap would do the right thing. Adding more stuff
> > > is done by enhancing the prepare ioctl.
> > > 
> > > Legacy mmap offsets are kept working.
> > 
> > This indeed what I have in mind. IE. VFIO has legacy regions and add-on
> > regions though the latter is currently only exploited by some drivers
> > that create their own add-on regions. My proposal is to add an ioctl to
> > create them from userspace as "children" of an existing driver-provided
> > region, allowing to set different attributes for mmap.
> 
> I wouldn't call it children, you are just getting a different mmap
> cookie for the same region object.

I though they could be subsets but that might be overkill.

> > In the current VFIO the implementation is *entirely* in vfio_pci_core
> > for PCI and entirely in vfio_platform_common.c for platform, so while
> > the same ioctls could be imagined to create sub-regions, it would have
> > to be completely implemented twice unless we do a lot of heavy lifting
> > to move some of that region stuff into common code.
> 
> The machinery for managing the mmap cookies should be in common code

Ok. I'll whip up a POC within vfio_pci only intially to test the
concept and to agree on the API, then look at how we can clean all that
up.

Cheers,
Ben.


      reply	other threads:[~2023-07-26  1:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-07-14  2:32 VFIO (PCI) and write combine mapping of BARs Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2023-07-14  7:13 ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2023-07-14 12:37   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-07-25  6:15     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2023-07-25 11:39       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-07-26  1:19         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt [this message]

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