From: Vaishnav Achath <vaishnav.a@ti.com>
To: Shunsuke Mie <mie@igel.co.jp>,
Kishon Vijay Abraham I <kvijayab@amd.com>,
Lorenzo Pieralisi <lpieralisi@kernel.org>,
"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: "Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
"Marcel Apfelbaum" <marcel.apfelbaum@gmail.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, "Rob Herring" <robh@kernel.org>,
"Bjorn Helgaas" <bhelgaas@google.com>,
"Linux Kernel Mailing List" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, "Krzysztof Wilczyński" <kw@linux.com>,
"Manivannan Sadhasivam" <manivannan.sadhasivam@linaro.org>,
"Kishon Vijay Abraham I" <kishon@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] Proposal of QEMU PCI Endpoint test environment
Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2023 18:10:36 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1269bf62-d67f-9f61-0139-dc20d23a9b5e@ti.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fe309259-01f0-871f-4620-3a4bdc56a186@igel.co.jp>
Hi Kishon, all,
On 26/09/23 15:17, Shunsuke Mie wrote:
>
> On 2023/09/21 18:11, Kishon Vijay Abraham I wrote:
>> +Vaishnav
>>
>> Hi Shunsuke,
>>
>> On 8/18/2023 7:16 PM, Shunsuke Mie wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> We are proposing to add a new test syste to Linux for PCIe Endpoint. That
>>> can be run on QEMU without real hardware. At present, partially we have
>>> confirmed that pci-epf-test is working, but it is not yet complete.
>>> However, we would appreciate your comments on the architecture design.
>>>
>>> # Background
>>> The background is as follows.
>>>
>>> PCI Endpoint function driver is implemented using the PCIe Endpoint
>>> framework, but it requires physical boards for testing, and it is difficult
>>> to test sufficiently. In order to find bugs and hardware-dependent
>>> implementations early, continuous testing is required. Since it is
>>> difficult to automate tests that require hardware, this RFC proposes a
>>> virtual environment for testing PCI endpoint function drivers.
>>
>> This would be quite useful and thank you for attempting it! I would like to
>> compare other mechanisms available in-addition to QEMU before going with the
>> QEMU approach.
>
> I got it. I'll make a table to compare some methods that includes greybus to
> realize this emulation environment.
>
>
> Best,
>
> Shunsuke
>
>> Though I don't understand this fully, Looking at
>> https://osseu2023.sched.com/event/1OGk8/emulating-devices-in-linux-using-greybus-subsystem-vaishnav-mohandas-achath-texas-instruments, Vaishnav seems to solve the same problem using greybus for multiple type s of devices.
>>
>> Vaishnav, we'd wait for your OSS presentation but do you have any initial
>> thoughts on how greybus could be used to test PCIe endpoint drivers?
>>
Apologies for the delay, I don't think greybus can be used for PCIe testing as
there is no greybus equivalent for PCIe[1], it can only be used for relatively
simpler devices today, I guess roadtest(UML based)[2] could be an alternative in
this case.
1 -
https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/drivers/staging/greybus
2 - https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/YjN1ksNGujV611Ka@sirena.org.uk/
Thanks and Regards,
Vaishnav
>> Thanks,
>> Kishon
>>
>>>
>>> # Architecture
>>> The overview of the architecture is as follows.
>>>
>>> Guest 1 Guest 2
>>> +-------------------------+ +----------------------------+
>>> | Linux kernel | | Linux kernel |
>>> | | | |
>>> | PCI EP function driver | | |
>>> | (e.g. pci-epf-test) | | |
>>> |-------------------------| | PCI Device Driver |
>>> | (2) QEMU EPC Driver | | (e.g. pci_endpoint_test) |
>>> +-------------------------+ +----------------------------+
>>> +-------------------------+ +----------------------------+
>>> | QEMU | | QEMU |
>>> |-------------------------| |----------------------------|
>>> | (1) QEMU PCI EPC Device *----* (3) QEMU EPF Bridge Device |
>>> +-------------------------+ +----------------------------+
>>>
>>> At present, it is designed to work guests only on the same host, and
>>> communication is done through Unix domain sockets.
>>>
>>> The three parts shown in the figure were introduced this time.
>>>
>>> (1) QEMU PCI Endpoint Controller(EPC) Device
>>> PCI Endpoint Controller implemented as QEMU PCI device.
>>> (2) QEMU PCI Endpoint Controller(EPC) Driver
>>> Linux kernel driver that drives the device (1). It registers a epc device
>>> to linux kernel and handling each operations for the epc device.
>>> (3) QEMU PCI Endpoint function(EPF) Bridge Device
>>> QEMU PCI device that cooperates with (1) and performs accesses to pci
>>> configuration space, BAR and memory space to communicate each guests, and
>>> generates interruptions to the guest 1.
>>>
>>> Each projects are:
>>> (1), (3) https://github.com/ShunsukeMie/qemu/tree/epf-bridge/v1
>>> <https://github.com/ShunsukeMie/qemu/tree/epf-bridge/v1>
>>> files: hw/misc/{qemu-epc.{c,h}, epf-bridge.c}
>>> (2) https://github.com/ShunsukeMie/linux-virtio-rdma/tree/qemu-epc
>>> <https://github.com/ShunsukeMie/linux-virtio-rdma/tree/qemu-epc>
>>> files: drivers/pci/controller/pcie-qemu-ep.c
>>>
>>> # Protocol
>>>
>>> PCI, PCIe has a layer structure that includes Physical, Data Lane and
>>> Transaction. The communicates between the bridge(3) and controller (1)
>>> mimic the Transaction. Specifically, a protocol is implemented for
>>> exchanging fd for communication protocol version check and communication,
>>> in addition to the interaction equivalent to PCIe Transaction Layer Packet
>>> (Read and Write of I/O, Memory, Configuration space and Message). In my
>>> mind, we need to discuss the communication mor.
>>>
>>> We also are planning to post the patch set after the code is organized and
>>> the protocol discussion is matured.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Shunsuke
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2023-08-23 6:09 ` [RFC] Proposal of QEMU PCI Endpoint test environment Manivannan Sadhasivam
2023-08-25 8:56 ` Shunsuke Mie
2023-09-21 9:11 ` Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2023-09-26 7:26 ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-09-26 9:47 ` Shunsuke Mie
2023-09-26 12:40 ` Vaishnav Achath [this message]
2023-10-03 4:56 ` Shunsuke Mie
2023-10-03 14:31 ` Jiri Kastner
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2023-10-05 7:02 ` Mattias Nissler
2023-10-06 11:51 ` Shunsuke Mie
2023-10-06 12:00 ` Mattias Nissler
2023-10-06 12:07 ` Thanos Makatos
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