From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from e34.co.us.ibm.com ([32.97.110.152]:51192 "EHLO e34.co.us.ibm.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1757797Ab3CTTQk (ORCPT ); Wed, 20 Mar 2013 15:16:40 -0400 Received: from /spool/local by e34.co.us.ibm.com with IBM ESMTP SMTP Gateway: Authorized Use Only! Violators will be prosecuted for from ; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 13:16:39 -0600 Message-ID: <1363806968.2580.86.camel@falcor1.watson.ibm.com> Subject: Re: [PATCH 01/12] Security: Add CAP_COMPROMISE_KERNEL From: Mimi Zohar To: Matthew Garrett Cc: James Morris , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" , "linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org" , "linux-efi@vger.kernel.org" , "kexec@lists.infradead.org" , "linux-pci@vger.kernel.org" Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 15:16:08 -0400 In-Reply-To: <1363803158.2553.33.camel@x230.sbx07502.somerma.wayport.net> References: <1363642353-30749-1-git-send-email-matthew.garrett@nebula.com> <1363797717.2580.10.camel@falcor1.watson.ibm.com> <1363798166.2553.29.camel@x230.sbx07502.somerma.wayport.net> <1363802506.2580.55.camel@falcor1.watson.ibm.com> <1363803158.2553.33.camel@x230.sbx07502.somerma.wayport.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: linux-pci-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: On Wed, 2013-03-20 at 18:12 +0000, Matthew Garrett wrote: > On Wed, 2013-03-20 at 14:01 -0400, Mimi Zohar wrote: > > > Sorry, I'm not sure to which work you're referring. If you're referring > > to Dmitry's "initramfs with digital signature protection" patches, then > > we're speaking about enforcing integrity, not MAC security. > > Well, in the absence of hardcoded in-kernel policy, there needs to be > some mechanism for ensuring the integrity of a policy. Shipping a signed > policy initramfs fragment and having any Secure Boot bootloaders pass a > flag in bootparams indicating that the kernel should panic if that > fragment isn't present would seem to be the easiest way of doing that. > Or have I misunderstood the question? Ok, I was confused by the term "fragmented" initramfs. So once you have verified the "early" fragmented initramfs signature, this initramfs will load the "trusted" public keys and could also load the MAC policy. (I realize that dracut is currently loading the MAC policy, not the initramfs.) The MAC policy would then be trusted, right? Could we then use the LSM labels for defining an integrity policy for kexec? thanks, Mimi