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From: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>
To: "Sean O. Stalley" <sean.stalley@intel.com>
Cc: bhelgaas@google.com, linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, david.daney@cavium.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] pci: Identify Enhanced Allocation (EA) BAR Equivalent resources
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2016 14:14:52 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1452806092.14628.110.camel@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160114202347.GB3381@sean.stalley.intel.com>

On Thu, 2016-01-14 at 12:23 -0800, Sean O. Stalley wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 12:16:02PM -0700, Alex Williamson wrote:
> > On Thu, 2016-01-14 at 10:34 -0800, Sean O. Stalley wrote:
> > > On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 10:26:56AM -0700, Alex Williamson wrote:
> > > > We've done a pretty good job of abstracting EA from drivers, but
> > > > there
> > > > are some properties of BAR Equivalent resources that don't really
> > > > jive
> > > > with traditional PCI BARs.  In particular, natural alignment is
> > > > only
> > > > encouraged, not required.
> > > > 
> > > > Why does this matter?  There are drivers like vfio-pci that will
> > > > happily gobble up the EA abstraction that's been implemented and
> > > > expose a device using EA to userspace as if those resources are
> > > > traditional BARs.  Pretty cool.  The vfio API is bus agnostic, so
> > > > it
> > > > doesn't care about alignment.  The problem comes with PCI config
> > > > space
> > > > emulation where we don't let userspace manipulate the BAR value,
> > > > but
> > > > we do emulate BAR sizing.  The abstraction kind of falls apart if
> > > > userspace gets garbage when they try to size what appears to be a
> > > > traditional BAR, but is actually a BAR equivalent.
> > > > 
> > > > We could simply round up the size in vfio to make it naturally
> > > > aligned, but then we're imposing artificial sizes to the user and
> > > > we
> > > > have the discontinuity that BAR size emulation and vfio region size
> > > > reporting don't agree on the size.  I think what we want to do is
> > > > expose EA to the user, reporting traditional BARs with BEIs as
> > > > zero-sized and providing additional regions for the user to access
> > > > each EA region, whether it has a BEI or not.
> > > > 
> > > > To facilitate that, a flag indicating whether a PCI resource is a
> > > > traditional BAR or BAR equivalent seems much nicer than attempting
> > > > to size the BAR ourselves or deducing it through the EA capability.
> > > 
> > > If vfio does size the resource, EA entries that are aligned could
> > > still be emulated as BARs, correct?
> > > 
> > > I would think that emulating a BAR would be preferred when possible,
> > > for backwards-compatibility.
> > 
> > If a BEI is naturally aligned, I can't think of any problems with
> > exposing it as a traditional BAR to userspace.  I agree that there may
> > be some compatibility benefits there, so it may be useful to offer both
> > options.  I don't think we can combine them though, it would violate
> > the EA spec to expose the traditional BAR and and the matching BEI.
> > We'd either need to hide the fake BAR or hide the EA entry defining
> > that BEI.  A module option could define which is preferred or maybe an
> > ioctl.
> 
> Would any functionality be lost if vfio:
> 	- emulates BARs & hide EA entry when EA resources are aligned.
> 	- exposes EA entries when the resources aren't aligned (no BAR emulation).
> ?
> 
> I'm just wondering if giving userspace the option to pick is necessary,
> or if there is a setting that is always ideal.

That certainly might be a good default and the only use case I can
think where it wouldn't be ideal is if we want to expose EA to a VM for
the purpose of doing EA testing and development in a guest.  A module
option would make more sense than defining a user interface for that
case though.

> > > > Thoughts?
> > > 
> > > I like the idea of adding an EA flag.
> > > 
> > > There were some cases in the kernel where it would be nice to know if a
> > > resource was fixed because it was EA or if something else was fixing it.
> > > Adding that flag was discussed during the code review of the EA code,
> > > but it was decided that we could get by without it.
> > > 
> > > IIRC, most of the cases that required the flag had to do with EA entries
> > > for bridges. Since bridge support wasn't added, we didn't need the flag.
> > 
> > By my reading of the spec, not all BEIs need to be fixed, is this just
> > a simplification to avoid sizing and mapping a BAR that doesn't exist
> > in the traditional sense?  A flag on the resource seems like it would
> > be useful for that as well if we ever wanted to add the case where an
> > AE BAR equivalent could be remapped.  Thanks,
> 
> All of the usable BEIs have a HwInit Base & MaxOffset, and therefore a
> fixed range. The "unavailable for use" resources aren't explicitly HwInit,
> but the spec doesn't define how/when you can move them.
> 
> The spec does define a writeable bit for resources,
> but doesn't define how to use it either. I think the intention was to
> be able to expand EA in the future to cover movable resources.

Wow, that's really confusing to have a writable bit per entry and then
define properties which forbid its use.  We'd need to go through the
SIG and define a whole new set of properties just to get movable
versions, crazy.  Thanks for the explanation.
> 
> Anyway, I think having an explicit flag that says "This Resource is from EA"
> that is independent of "This resource is fixed" is a good idea.
> 
> 
> Acked-by: Sean O. Stalley <sean.stalley@intel.com>

Cool, thanks

Alex

> > > > Signed-off-by: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>
> > > > ---
> > > >  drivers/pci/pci.c      |    2 +-
> > > >  include/linux/ioport.h |    2 ++
> > > >  2 files changed, 3 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> > > > 
> > > > diff --git a/drivers/pci/pci.c b/drivers/pci/pci.c
> > > > index 314db8c..174c734 100644
> > > > --- a/drivers/pci/pci.c
> > > > +++ b/drivers/pci/pci.c
> > > > @@ -2229,7 +2229,7 @@ void pci_pm_init(struct pci_dev *dev)
> > > >  
> > > >  static unsigned long pci_ea_flags(struct pci_dev *dev, u8
> > > > prop)
> > > >  {
> > > > -	unsigned long flags = IORESOURCE_PCI_FIXED;
> > > > +	unsigned long flags = IORESOURCE_PCI_FIXED |
> > > > IORESOURCE_PCI_EA_BEI;
> > > >  
> > > >  	switch (prop) {
> > > >  	case PCI_EA_P_MEM:
> > > > diff --git a/include/linux/ioport.h b/include/linux/ioport.h
> > > > index 24bea08..5acc194 100644
> > > > --- a/include/linux/ioport.h
> > > > +++ b/include/linux/ioport.h
> > > > @@ -105,6 +105,8 @@ struct resource {
> > > >  /* PCI control bits.  Shares IORESOURCE_BITS with above PCI
> > > > ROM.  */
> > > >  #define IORESOURCE_PCI_FIXED		(1<<4)	/*
> > > > Do
> > > > not move resource */
> > > >  
> > > > +/* PCI Enhanced Allocation defined BAR equivalent resource *
> > > > +#define IORESOURCE_PCI_EA_BEI		(1<<5)
> > > >  
> > > >  /* helpers to define resources */
> > > >  #define DEFINE_RES_NAMED(_start, _size, _name, _flags)		
> > > > 	\
> > > > 
> > 


  reply	other threads:[~2016-01-14 21:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-01-14 17:26 [RFC PATCH] pci: Identify Enhanced Allocation (EA) BAR Equivalent resources Alex Williamson
2016-01-14 18:34 ` Sean O. Stalley
2016-01-14 19:16   ` Alex Williamson
2016-01-14 20:23     ` Sean O. Stalley
2016-01-14 21:14       ` Alex Williamson [this message]
2016-01-14 23:02         ` Sean O. Stalley
2016-01-14 18:54 ` David Daney
2016-01-14 19:20   ` Alex Williamson
2016-01-14 19:27   ` Sean O. Stalley
2016-01-20 20:20 ` Alex Williamson
2016-01-21 17:48   ` Sean O. Stalley

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