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From: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Cc: Jason Gunthorpe <jgunthorpe@obsidianresearch.com>,
	Liviu Dudau <liviu@dudau.co.uk>,
	"linux-pci@vger.kernel.org" <linux-pci@vger.kernel.org>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	Russell King <rmk@arm.linux.org.uk>,
	Kumar Gala <galak@codeaurora.org>,
	"bhelgaas@google.com" <bhelgaas@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 3/3] PCI: ARM: add support for generic PCI host controller
Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 19:25:35 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1663692.UxtD9eTEBL@wuerfel> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140218174125.GC29304@obsidianresearch.com>

On Tuesday 18 February 2014 10:41:25 Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 02:03:26PM +0100, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> 
> > Can anyone with more experience on the subject than me (Bjorn,
> > Russell, Jason, ...) think of a reason why we would not want to
> > just use a new domain for every host bridge we find?
> 
> I personaly think we can safely move away from stuffing multiple host
> bridges into a single domain for DT cases. The reasons for doing this
> have long since been superseded.

Ok, that would definitely be the simplest answer. :)

> As far as I know the host bridge stuffing is something that was
> created before domains to solve the problem on embedded of multiple
> PCI host bridges on a SOC/System Controller. I know I have used it
> that way in the distant past (for MIPS).

Apple have also used the same trick on their G5 Macs, presumably
to simplify things for OS9 and OS-X, but even at the time making
it harder for Linux.
 
> However today PCI-SIG has a standard way to describe multi-port
> root-complexes in config space, so we should not need to use the
> multi-bus hack. SOCs with non-compliant HW that *really* need single
> domain can get there: mvebu shows how to write a driver that provides
> a software version of the missing hardware elements. Pushing mess like
> this out of the core code seems like a good strategy.

Ok.

> The only reason I can think of to avoid using a domain is if Linux has
> to interface with external firmware that uses bus:device.function
> notation for coding information. (eg Intel-MP tables on x86 encode
> interrupt routing use B:D.F) In this case Linux would need a way to
> map between Linux B:D.F and the Firwmare B:D.F, or it would need to
> use the Firmware B:D.F layout. But this argument does not apply to DT
> systems as DT encodes the domain too. Presumably ACPI will be the
> same.

ACPI definitely has a concept of domains, as I noticed when looking
at the x86 ACPI PCI probing code.

> So the Liviu, I would say the API should be similar to what we see in
> other OF enabled driver bases subsystems, call the core code with a
> platform_device pointer and function_ops pointer and have the core
> code create a domain, figure out the domain # from the DT (via
> aliases?), and so on.

Do we even need stable domain numbers? If we do, aliases sound fine.
A more complex method would be to sort them by MMIO window address
or perhaps by phandle.

	Arnd

  reply	other threads:[~2014-02-18 18:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-02-12 20:16 [PATCH v2 0/3] ARM: PCI: implement generic PCI host controller Will Deacon
2014-02-12 20:16 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] ARM: mach-virt: allow PCI support to be selected Will Deacon
2014-02-12 20:16 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] ARM: bios32: use pci_enable_resource to enable PCI resources Will Deacon
2014-02-12 22:28   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2014-02-13 10:06     ` Will Deacon
2014-02-13 12:22   ` Jingoo Han
2014-02-12 20:16 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] PCI: ARM: add support for generic PCI host controller Will Deacon
2014-02-12 20:59   ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-02-13 11:04     ` Will Deacon
2014-02-13 11:47       ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-02-13 12:00         ` Will Deacon
2014-02-13 12:21           ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-02-12 21:51   ` Kumar Gala
2014-02-13 11:07     ` Will Deacon
2014-02-13 16:22       ` Kumar Gala
2014-02-13 16:25         ` Will Deacon
2014-02-13 16:28         ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-02-13 18:11           ` Mark Rutland
2014-02-13 18:26           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2014-02-13 19:53             ` Will Deacon
2014-02-13 20:20               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2014-02-14  9:59               ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-02-14 22:00                 ` Liviu Dudau
2014-02-15 13:03                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-02-18 17:41                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2014-02-18 18:25                       ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2014-02-18 18:45                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2014-02-18 19:13                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-02-19  2:44                       ` Liviu Dudau
2014-02-19  6:48                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2014-02-19 10:24                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-02-19 11:37                           ` Liviu Dudau
2014-02-19 13:26                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-02-19 15:30                               ` Liviu Dudau
2014-02-19 19:47                                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-02-19  0:28                     ` Bjorn Helgaas
2014-02-19  9:58                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-02-19 18:20                         ` Bjorn Helgaas
2014-02-19 19:06                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-02-19 20:18                             ` Bjorn Helgaas
2014-02-19 20:48                               ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-02-19 21:10                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2014-02-19 21:33                                 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2014-02-19 22:12                                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-02-19 22:18                                     ` Bjorn Helgaas
2014-02-13 19:52         ` Rob Herring
2014-02-13 18:06       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2014-02-13 19:51         ` Will Deacon
2014-02-13 18:26 ` [PATCH v2 0/3] ARM: PCI: implement " Jason Gunthorpe
2014-02-14 11:05   ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-02-18 18:00     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2014-02-18 18:40       ` Arnd Bergmann

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