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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Yinghai Lu <yinghai@kernel.org>
Cc: Jason Baron <jbaron@redhat.com>,
	bhelgaas@google.com, linux-pci@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] pci hotplug: rescan bridge after device hotplug
Date: Thu, 24 May 2012 00:18:08 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120523211808.GA2034@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAE9FiQX8j__V+VG-by+N9zZ7GJPtiLL0qJtiji7jHWddvJnOmQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 01:53:10PM -0700, Yinghai Lu wrote:
> On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 12:08 PM, Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com> wrote:
> > Fundamentally BARs are under guest control.
> > So while you are handing out memory for the bridges you would have to
> > tiptoe around guest assigned BARs.
> >
> > Also what happens after reboot? bios currently
> > assigns memory to bridges that are present on boot.
> > So this makes it even messier as who assigns memory
> > depends on whether device is hotplugged.
> >
> > Cleaner to have guest do it.
> 
> assume here  "guest' mean: BIOS + kernel + (acpi dsl code from BIOS).
> 
> >
> > I think Windows even can even rebalance BARs
> > as needed. So this is just a linux bug that needs
> > to be fixed.
> 
> Now pciehp in Linux will resize the bridge.
> but not for acpiphp. reason: acpiphp could handle more complicated case.
> does not mean new add card have to been under one bridge existing.

expess has this too. It just needs a bigger hierarchy:
upsteam ports can have many downstream ports behind them.


> slot just on root bus, you could just add device or bridge in it.
> and the bridge could have other hotlpug slots.
> 
> in that case, if one of children slot already have card
> installed/driver loaded, later
> after another card is put in another child slot, we can not simple
> resize the bridge in parent slot.
> because other child devices is operating...
> 
> solution will be
> 1. add quirks to set is_hotplug_bridge for apciphp....
> 2. or probe_resource in busn_alloc patchset, that maybe still need to
> extend to support alignment.
> 
> BTW, I was thinking Linux is the ONLY one that will scratch bridge BAR
> if that is big enough for children devices.
> Do you have evidence that other os does that?
> 
> Yinghai

I saw some docs on the net but do not have them handy. Google it.


  reply	other threads:[~2012-05-23 21:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-05-22 20:11 [PATCH] pci hotplug: rescan bridge after device hotplug Jason Baron
2012-05-22 20:34 ` Yinghai Lu
2012-05-22 21:18   ` Yinghai Lu
2012-05-22 21:21 ` Yinghai Lu
2012-05-23  2:43   ` Jason Baron
2012-05-23  3:31     ` Yinghai Lu
2012-05-23  4:07       ` Yinghai Lu
2012-05-23 15:53         ` Jason Baron
2012-05-23 17:16           ` Yinghai Lu
2012-05-23 18:44             ` Jason Baron
2012-05-23 19:08               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-05-23 19:20                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-05-23 20:53                 ` Yinghai Lu
2012-05-23 21:18                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2012-05-23 20:31               ` Yinghai Lu
2012-05-23 20:49                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-05-23 19:13       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-05-23 20:52       ` Jason Baron
2012-05-24  0:00         ` Yinghai Lu
2012-05-24 13:43           ` Jason Baron

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