From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgunthorpe@obsidianresearch.com>
To: Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>
Cc: Stephen Warren <swarren@wwwdotorg.org>,
Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
Thomas Petazzoni <thomas.petazzoni@free-electrons.com>,
linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
Jason Cooper <jason@lakedaemon.net>, Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>,
Gregory Clement <gregory.clement@free-electrons.com>,
Maen Suleiman <maen@marvell.com>,
Lior Amsalem <alior@marvell.com>,
Thierry Reding <thierry.reding@avionic-design.de>,
Eran Ben-Avi <benavi@marvell.com>,
Nadav Haklai <nadavh@marvell.com>,
Shadi Ammouri <shadi@marvell.com>,
Tawfik Bayouk <tawfik@marvell.com>,
Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 07/27] PCI: Add software-emulated host bridge
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 23:16:02 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130129061602.GB3339@obsidianresearch.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAErSpo7-qXZTri-T+v4O3rKk9AXjHE4ckkWZ1UT63SC1fG02-A@mail.gmail.com>
On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 07:40:16PM -0700, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 3:09 PM, Jason Gunthorpe
> <jgunthorpe@obsidianresearch.com> wrote:
> > On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 03:03:55PM -0700, Stephen Warren wrote:
> >> On 01/28/2013 01:18 PM, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> >> > On Monday 28 January 2013, Thomas Petazzoni wrote:
> >> >> From: Thierry Reding <thierry.reding@avionic-design.de>
> >> >>
> >> >> [Thomas Petazzoni:
> >> >> - Simplify capabilities handling.
> >> >> - Move to a separate file.
> >> >> - Fix mask used when writing a 4 bytes value.]
> >> >>
> >> >> Signed-off-by: Thierry Reding <thierry.reding@avionic-design.de>
> >> >> Signed-off-by: Thomas Petazzoni <thomas.petazzoni@free-electrons.com>
> >> >
> >> > Not even a description why this is needed?
> >> >
> >> > This patch (together with patch 8) seems like the most controversial
> >> > one of the series, so you should better provide a really good reason
> >> > why we would emulate something in software rather than using whatever
> >> > hardware is there.
> >>
> >> At least on Tegra, there is no HW that exposes PCI configuration
> >> registers for the host bridge itself. Only the root ports have exposed
> >> PCI configuration registers. There was some debate re: whether a host
> >> bridge device needed to exist or not. This patch makes such a device
> >> exist if it's required.
>
> Host bridges are not actually PCI devices on any architecture. The
> upstream side of a host bridge is by definition not on a PCI bus. On
> some architectures, it *looks* like the host bridge is a PCI device
> because it responds to PCI config accesses and you can get to
Sure, you can't discover domains through any standard means, but once
you have found a domain (notably a way to issue config transactions)
then the PCI-E standard actually does place requirements on what
config transactions should return:
- 0:00.0 is a host bridge config space.
- 0:XX.X will be one of:
- A root complex internal function, with some restrictions this
is basically a PCI end device
- A PCI-PCI bridge with various mandatory capability headers.
One of these must show up for every physical PCI-E link
on the root complex.
This collection of stuff on bus 0 is called the 'root complex'. This
is new in PCI-E, PCI-X and PCI didn't have such requirements.
SOC vendors are taking various liberties with their PCI-E implementations.
- nvidia followed the standard but did not include the host bridge
at 0:00.0
- Marvell ignored everything about the root complex config space
behavior :)
There are two patch sets in this subject, one for nvidia tegra and one
for Marvell, both presenting to Linux a view of the HW that matches
what the PCI-E spec describes - specifically that there is one domain,
and each PCI-E link/controller shows up as a PCI-PCI bridge on bus 0.
In this model, there is no 'host bridge aperture' hardware, each PCI-E
link has a dedicated aperture and control of that aperture is through
the PCI-PCI bridge window registers, again as PCI-E specifies.
Jason
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Thread overview: 217+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-01-28 18:56 [PATCH v2] PCIe support for the Armada 370 and Armada XP SoCs Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-28 18:56 ` [PATCH v2 01/27] of/pci: Provide support for parsing PCI DT ranges property Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-28 18:56 ` [PATCH v2 02/27] of/pci: Add of_pci_get_devfn() function Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-28 22:00 ` Stephen Warren
2013-01-28 22:16 ` Thierry Reding
2013-01-29 10:04 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-28 18:56 ` [PATCH v2 03/27] of/pci: Add of_pci_parse_bus_range() function Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-28 18:56 ` [PATCH v2 04/27] ARM: pci: Allow passing per-controller private data Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-28 18:56 ` [PATCH v2 05/27] arm: pci: add a align_resource hook Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-29 15:12 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-29 15:15 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-01-29 15:23 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-29 15:25 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-01-29 15:28 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-29 15:58 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-01-29 16:20 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-29 16:45 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-01-29 17:09 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-29 20:15 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-01-29 20:33 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-29 21:59 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-29 22:17 ` Stephen Warren
2013-01-30 4:49 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-01-29 22:54 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-01-30 4:21 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-01-30 9:55 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-01-30 11:47 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-30 16:17 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-01-30 16:38 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-30 20:48 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2013-01-30 21:06 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-01-30 4:56 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-01-30 8:19 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-30 9:46 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-01-30 9:54 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-30 10:03 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-01-30 11:42 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-28 18:56 ` [PATCH v2 06/27] lib: devres: don't enclose pcim_*() functions in CONFIG_HAS_IOPORT Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-28 18:56 ` [PATCH v2 07/27] PCI: Add software-emulated host bridge Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-28 20:18 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-01-28 22:03 ` Stephen Warren
2013-01-28 22:09 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-01-28 22:18 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-28 22:23 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-01-28 22:30 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-28 22:51 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-01-29 10:01 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-29 17:42 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-01-29 17:43 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-29 2:40 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2013-01-29 6:16 ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2013-01-28 22:09 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-28 18:56 ` [PATCH v2 08/27] pci: implement an emulated PCI-to-PCI bridge Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-28 19:35 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-01-28 19:39 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-28 19:55 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-01-28 22:06 ` Stephen Warren
2013-01-28 22:16 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-01-29 22:35 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2013-01-29 23:06 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-01-30 4:12 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-01-28 18:56 ` [PATCH v2 09/27] pci: infrastructure to add drivers in drivers/pci/host Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-28 18:56 ` [PATCH v2 10/27] arm: mvebu: fix address-cells in mpic DT node Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-28 18:56 ` [PATCH v2 11/27] clk: mvebu: create parent-child relation for PCIe clocks on Armada 370 Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-28 22:08 ` Stephen Warren
2013-01-28 22:21 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-28 22:27 ` Stephen Warren
2013-01-28 22:44 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-28 18:56 ` [PATCH v2 12/27] clk: mvebu: add more PCIe clocks for Armada XP Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-28 18:56 ` [PATCH v2 13/27] arm: plat-orion: introduce WIN_CTRL_ENABLE in address mapping code Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-28 18:56 ` [PATCH v2 14/27] arm: plat-orion: refactor the orion_disable_wins() function Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-28 18:56 ` [PATCH v2 15/27] arm: plat-orion: introduce orion_{alloc,free}_cpu_win() functions Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-28 18:56 ` [PATCH v2 16/27] arm: mvebu: add functions to alloc/free PCIe decoding windows Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-28 18:56 ` [PATCH v2 17/27] arm: plat-orion: make common PCIe code usable on mvebu Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-28 18:56 ` [PATCH v2 18/27] arm: plat-orion: add more flexible PCI configuration space read/write functions Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-28 19:51 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-01-29 8:40 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-29 17:40 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-01-28 18:56 ` [PATCH v2 19/27] pci: PCIe driver for Marvell Armada 370/XP systems Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-28 22:21 ` Stephen Warren
2013-01-29 8:41 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-29 9:20 ` Thierry Reding
2013-01-29 9:21 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-02-07 10:24 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-02-07 15:46 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2013-02-07 16:00 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-02-07 18:08 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2013-02-07 18:15 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-02-07 18:30 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2013-02-07 18:43 ` Thierry Reding
2013-01-29 19:47 ` Stephen Warren
2013-01-29 3:29 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2013-01-29 5:55 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-01-29 8:00 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-29 17:47 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2013-01-29 18:14 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-29 18:41 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-01-29 19:07 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2013-01-29 19:18 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-01-29 19:38 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2013-01-29 22:27 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2013-01-30 4:24 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-01-30 9:35 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-30 18:52 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2013-01-30 22:28 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-30 23:10 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-01-30 23:48 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2013-01-31 16:04 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-31 16:30 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2013-01-31 16:33 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-31 17:03 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2013-01-31 16:42 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-01-29 13:22 ` Andrew Murray
2013-01-29 13:45 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-29 14:05 ` Andrew Murray
2013-01-29 14:20 ` Thierry Reding
2013-01-29 14:29 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-29 15:02 ` Thierry Reding
2013-01-29 15:08 ` Andrew Murray
2013-01-29 15:10 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-02-07 14:37 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-02-07 15:51 ` Andrew Murray
2013-02-07 16:19 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-02-07 16:40 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-02-07 16:53 ` Andrew Murray
2013-02-07 17:14 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-02-07 17:29 ` Andrew Murray
2013-02-07 17:37 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-02-07 18:21 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-02-07 23:25 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-02-08 0:44 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-02-09 22:23 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-02-12 19:26 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-02-07 18:30 ` Andrew Murray
2013-02-07 23:27 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-01-30 11:32 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-01-30 11:37 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-30 12:03 ` Thierry Reding
2013-01-30 13:07 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-30 15:08 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-01-30 15:19 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-01-30 15:36 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-30 15:46 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-01-31 14:30 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-31 14:50 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-01-31 14:57 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-31 15:08 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-01-31 15:22 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-31 15:36 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-01-31 15:47 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-31 15:48 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-01-31 16:18 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-01-31 18:02 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-01-31 20:46 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-01-31 22:44 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-02-01 11:30 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-02-01 19:52 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-02-06 16:51 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-02-06 17:09 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-02-06 17:18 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-02-06 17:50 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-02-06 18:02 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-02-06 18:22 ` Stephen Warren
2013-02-06 18:39 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-02-06 18:42 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-02-06 22:04 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-02-07 15:50 ` Giving special alignment/size constraints to the Linux PCI core? Thomas Petazzoni
2013-02-07 23:33 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-02-08 4:21 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2013-02-08 8:14 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-02-12 16:00 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-02-12 18:41 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-02-12 19:02 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-02-12 19:38 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-02-12 23:05 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-02-13 0:32 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-02-13 18:53 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-02-13 19:12 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-02-13 19:51 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-02-13 21:10 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-02-13 21:20 ` Yinghai Lu
2013-02-13 22:24 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-02-13 21:02 ` Yinghai Lu
2013-01-31 7:10 ` [PATCH v2 19/27] pci: PCIe driver for Marvell Armada 370/XP systems Thierry Reding
2013-02-01 0:34 ` Stephen Warren
2013-02-01 1:41 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-02-01 2:21 ` Stephen Warren
2013-02-01 3:51 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-02-01 9:03 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-02-01 16:07 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-02-01 16:26 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-02-01 17:45 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-02-01 19:58 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-02-01 8:46 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-02-01 16:02 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-02-01 17:57 ` Stephen Warren
2013-02-01 19:39 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-02-01 20:30 ` Stephen Warren
2013-01-28 18:56 ` [PATCH v2 20/27] arm: mvebu: PCIe support is now available on mvebu Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-28 18:56 ` [PATCH v2 21/27] arm: mvebu: add PCIe Device Tree informations for Armada 370 Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-28 18:56 ` [PATCH v2 22/27] arm: mvebu: add PCIe Device Tree informations for Armada XP Thomas Petazzoni
2013-02-06 22:41 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-02-06 23:07 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-02-07 8:04 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-02-07 8:45 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-02-07 9:09 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-02-07 1:05 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-02-07 7:28 ` Thierry Reding
2013-02-07 17:49 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-02-07 8:24 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-02-07 17:00 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-02-07 23:44 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-01-28 18:56 ` [PATCH v2 23/27] arm: mvebu: PCIe Device Tree informations for OpenBlocks AX3-4 Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-28 18:56 ` [PATCH v2 24/27] arm: mvebu: PCIe Device Tree informations for Armada XP DB Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-28 18:56 ` [PATCH v2 25/27] arm: mvebu: PCIe Device Tree informations for Armada 370 Mirabox Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-28 18:56 ` [PATCH v2 26/27] arm: mvebu: PCIe Device Tree informations for Armada 370 DB Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-28 18:56 ` [PATCH v2 27/27] arm: mvebu: update defconfig with PCI and USB support Thomas Petazzoni
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