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From: Thomas Petazzoni <thomas.petazzoni@free-electrons.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgunthorpe@obsidianresearch.com>
Cc: Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	Jason Cooper <jason@lakedaemon.net>, Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>,
	Gregory Clement <gregory.clement@free-electrons.com>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>, Maen Suleiman <maen@marvell.com>,
	Lior Amsalem <alior@marvell.com>,
	Thierry Reding <thierry.reding@avionic-design.de>,
	Eran Ben-Avi <benavi@marvell.com>,
	Nadav Haklai <nadavh@marvell.com>,
	Shadi Ammouri <shadi@marvell.com>,
	Tawfik Bayouk <tawfik@marvell.com>,
	Stephen Warren <swarren@wwwdotorg.org>,
	Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 19/27] pci: PCIe driver for Marvell Armada 370/XP systems
Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 09:00:36 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130129090036.64c76c25@skate> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130129055508.GA3339@obsidianresearch.com>

Bjorn, Jason,

On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 22:55:08 -0700, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:

> > There's no Linux requirement that multiple PCIe interfaces appear to
> > be in the same hierarchy.  You can just use pci_scan_root_bus()
> > separately on each interface.  Each interface can be in its own domain
> > if necessary.
> 
> What you suggest is basically what the Marvell driver did originally,
> the probelm is that Linux requires a pre-assigned aperture for each
> PCI domain/root bus, and these new chips have so many PCI-E ports that
> they can exhaust the physical address space, and also a limited
> internal HW resource for setting address routing.
> 
> Thus they require resource allocation that is sensitive to the devices
> present downstream.
> 
> By far the simplest solution is to merge all the physical links into a
> single domain and rely on existing PCI resource allocation code to
> drive allocation of scarce physical address space and demand allocate
> the HW routing resource (specifically there are enough resources to
> accomidate MMIO only devices on every bus, but not enough to
> accomidate MMIO and IO on every bus).
> 
> > > +/*
> > > + * For a given PCIe interface (represented by a mvebu_pcie_port
> > > + * structure), we read the PCI configuration space of the
> > > + * corresponding PCI-to-PCI bridge in order to find out which range of
> > > + * I/O addresses and memory addresses have been assigned to this PCIe
> > > + * interface. Using these informations, we set up the appropriate
> > > + * address decoding windows so that the physical address are actually
> > > + * resolved to the right PCIe interface.
> > > + */
> > 
> > Are you inferring the host bridge apertures by using the resources
> > assigned to devices under the bridge, i.e., taking the union of all
> 
> The flow is different, a portion of physical address space is set
> aside for use by PCI-E (via DT) and that portion is specified in the
> struct resource's ultimately attached to the PCI domain for the bus
> scan. You could call that the 'host bridge aperture' though it doesn't
> reflect any HW configuration at all. The values come from the device
> tree.
> 
> During the bus scan the Linux core code splits up that contiguous
> space and assigns to the PCI-PCI bridges and devices under that domain.
> 
> Each physical PCI-E link on the chip is seen by Linux through the SW
> emulated PCI-PCI bridge attached to bus 0. When Linux configures the
> bridge windows it triggers this code here to copy that window
> information from the PCI config space into non-standard internal HW
> registers.
> 
> The purpose of the SW PCI-PCI bridge and this code here is to give
> the Linux PCI core control over the window (MMIO,IO,busnr) assigned
> to the PCI-E link.
> 
> This arrangement with PCI-PCI bridges controlling address routing is
> part of the PCI-E standard, in this instance Marvell did not implement
> the required config space in HW so the driver is working around that
> deficiency.
> 
> Other drivers, like tegra have a similar design, but their hardware
> does implement PCI-PCI bridge configuration space and does drive
> address decoding through the HW PCI-PCI window registers.
> 
> Having PCI-E links be bridges, not domains/root_bus's is in-line with
> the standard and works better with the Linux PCI resource allocator.

Thanks a lot Jason for this explanation, I couldn't have explained it
as clearly as you did.

Bjorn, does Jason's reply answers your questions? Or do you need other
details?

Thanks!

Thomas
-- 
Thomas Petazzoni, Free Electrons
Kernel, drivers, real-time and embedded Linux
development, consulting, training and support.
http://free-electrons.com

  reply	other threads:[~2013-01-29  8:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 217+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-01-28 18:56 [PATCH v2] PCIe support for the Armada 370 and Armada XP SoCs Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-28 18:56 ` [PATCH v2 01/27] of/pci: Provide support for parsing PCI DT ranges property Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-28 18:56 ` [PATCH v2 02/27] of/pci: Add of_pci_get_devfn() function Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-28 22:00   ` Stephen Warren
2013-01-28 22:16     ` Thierry Reding
2013-01-29 10:04       ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-28 18:56 ` [PATCH v2 03/27] of/pci: Add of_pci_parse_bus_range() function Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-28 18:56 ` [PATCH v2 04/27] ARM: pci: Allow passing per-controller private data Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-28 18:56 ` [PATCH v2 05/27] arm: pci: add a align_resource hook Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-29 15:12   ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-29 15:15     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-01-29 15:23       ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-29 15:25         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-01-29 15:28           ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-29 15:58     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-01-29 16:20       ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-29 16:45         ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-01-29 17:09           ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-29 20:15             ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-01-29 20:33               ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-29 21:59                 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-29 22:17                   ` Stephen Warren
2013-01-30  4:49                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-01-29 22:54                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-01-30  4:21                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-01-30  9:55                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-01-30 11:47                       ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-30 16:17                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-01-30 16:38                           ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-30 20:48                         ` Bjorn Helgaas
2013-01-30 21:06                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-01-30  4:56           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-01-30  8:19             ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-30  9:46             ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-01-30  9:54               ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-30 10:03                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-01-30 11:42                   ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-28 18:56 ` [PATCH v2 06/27] lib: devres: don't enclose pcim_*() functions in CONFIG_HAS_IOPORT Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-28 18:56 ` [PATCH v2 07/27] PCI: Add software-emulated host bridge Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-28 20:18   ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-01-28 22:03     ` Stephen Warren
2013-01-28 22:09       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-01-28 22:18         ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-28 22:23           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-01-28 22:30             ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-28 22:51               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-01-29 10:01                 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-29 17:42                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-01-29 17:43                     ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-29  2:40         ` Bjorn Helgaas
2013-01-29  6:16           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-01-28 22:09     ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-28 18:56 ` [PATCH v2 08/27] pci: implement an emulated PCI-to-PCI bridge Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-28 19:35   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-01-28 19:39     ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-28 19:55       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-01-28 22:06         ` Stephen Warren
2013-01-28 22:16           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-01-29 22:35   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2013-01-29 23:06     ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-01-30  4:12       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-01-28 18:56 ` [PATCH v2 09/27] pci: infrastructure to add drivers in drivers/pci/host Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-28 18:56 ` [PATCH v2 10/27] arm: mvebu: fix address-cells in mpic DT node Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-28 18:56 ` [PATCH v2 11/27] clk: mvebu: create parent-child relation for PCIe clocks on Armada 370 Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-28 22:08   ` Stephen Warren
2013-01-28 22:21     ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-28 22:27       ` Stephen Warren
2013-01-28 22:44         ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-28 18:56 ` [PATCH v2 12/27] clk: mvebu: add more PCIe clocks for Armada XP Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-28 18:56 ` [PATCH v2 13/27] arm: plat-orion: introduce WIN_CTRL_ENABLE in address mapping code Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-28 18:56 ` [PATCH v2 14/27] arm: plat-orion: refactor the orion_disable_wins() function Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-28 18:56 ` [PATCH v2 15/27] arm: plat-orion: introduce orion_{alloc,free}_cpu_win() functions Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-28 18:56 ` [PATCH v2 16/27] arm: mvebu: add functions to alloc/free PCIe decoding windows Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-28 18:56 ` [PATCH v2 17/27] arm: plat-orion: make common PCIe code usable on mvebu Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-28 18:56 ` [PATCH v2 18/27] arm: plat-orion: add more flexible PCI configuration space read/write functions Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-28 19:51   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-01-29  8:40     ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-29 17:40       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-01-28 18:56 ` [PATCH v2 19/27] pci: PCIe driver for Marvell Armada 370/XP systems Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-28 22:21   ` Stephen Warren
2013-01-29  8:41     ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-29  9:20       ` Thierry Reding
2013-01-29  9:21         ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-02-07 10:24         ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-02-07 15:46           ` Bjorn Helgaas
2013-02-07 16:00             ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-02-07 18:08               ` Bjorn Helgaas
2013-02-07 18:15                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-02-07 18:30                   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2013-02-07 18:43                 ` Thierry Reding
2013-01-29 19:47       ` Stephen Warren
2013-01-29  3:29   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2013-01-29  5:55     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-01-29  8:00       ` Thomas Petazzoni [this message]
2013-01-29 17:47       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2013-01-29 18:14         ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-29 18:41         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-01-29 19:07           ` Bjorn Helgaas
2013-01-29 19:18             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-01-29 19:38               ` Bjorn Helgaas
2013-01-29 22:27                 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2013-01-30  4:24                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-01-30  9:35                   ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-30 18:52                     ` Bjorn Helgaas
2013-01-30 22:28                       ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-30 23:10                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-01-30 23:48                         ` Bjorn Helgaas
2013-01-31 16:04                       ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-31 16:30                         ` Bjorn Helgaas
2013-01-31 16:33                           ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-31 17:03                             ` Bjorn Helgaas
2013-01-31 16:42                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-01-29 13:22   ` Andrew Murray
2013-01-29 13:45     ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-29 14:05       ` Andrew Murray
2013-01-29 14:20         ` Thierry Reding
2013-01-29 14:29           ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-29 15:02             ` Thierry Reding
2013-01-29 15:08               ` Andrew Murray
2013-01-29 15:10               ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-02-07 14:37     ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-02-07 15:51       ` Andrew Murray
2013-02-07 16:19         ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-02-07 16:40           ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-02-07 16:53             ` Andrew Murray
2013-02-07 17:14               ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-02-07 17:29                 ` Andrew Murray
2013-02-07 17:37                   ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-02-07 18:21                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-02-07 23:25                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-02-08  0:44                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-02-09 22:23                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-02-12 19:26                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-02-07 18:30                     ` Andrew Murray
2013-02-07 23:27                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-01-30 11:32   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-01-30 11:37     ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-30 12:03     ` Thierry Reding
2013-01-30 13:07       ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-30 15:08       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-01-30 15:19         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-01-30 15:36           ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-30 15:46             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-01-31 14:30               ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-31 14:50                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-01-31 14:57                   ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-31 15:08                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-01-31 15:22                       ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-31 15:36                         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-01-31 15:47                           ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-31 15:48                             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-01-31 16:18                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-01-31 18:02                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-01-31 20:46                               ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-01-31 22:44                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-02-01 11:30                                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-02-01 19:52                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-02-06 16:51                                   ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-02-06 17:09                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-02-06 17:18                                       ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-02-06 17:50                                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-02-06 18:02                                           ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-02-06 18:22                                           ` Stephen Warren
2013-02-06 18:39                                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-02-06 18:42                                             ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-02-06 22:04                                               ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-02-07 15:50                                           ` Giving special alignment/size constraints to the Linux PCI core? Thomas Petazzoni
2013-02-07 23:33                                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-02-08  4:21                                             ` Bjorn Helgaas
2013-02-08  8:14                                               ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-02-12 16:00                                                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-02-12 18:41                                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-02-12 19:02                                                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-02-12 19:38                                                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-02-12 23:05                                                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-02-13  0:32                                                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-02-13 18:53                                                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-02-13 19:12                                                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-02-13 19:51                                                                 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-02-13 21:10                                                                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-02-13 21:20                                                                   ` Yinghai Lu
2013-02-13 22:24                                                                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-02-13 21:02                                                             ` Yinghai Lu
2013-01-31  7:10           ` [PATCH v2 19/27] pci: PCIe driver for Marvell Armada 370/XP systems Thierry Reding
2013-02-01  0:34   ` Stephen Warren
2013-02-01  1:41     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-02-01  2:21       ` Stephen Warren
2013-02-01  3:51         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-02-01  9:03           ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-02-01 16:07             ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-02-01 16:26               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-02-01 17:45                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-02-01 19:58                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-02-01  8:46         ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-02-01 16:02           ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-02-01 17:57           ` Stephen Warren
2013-02-01 19:39             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-02-01 20:30               ` Stephen Warren
2013-01-28 18:56 ` [PATCH v2 20/27] arm: mvebu: PCIe support is now available on mvebu Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-28 18:56 ` [PATCH v2 21/27] arm: mvebu: add PCIe Device Tree informations for Armada 370 Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-28 18:56 ` [PATCH v2 22/27] arm: mvebu: add PCIe Device Tree informations for Armada XP Thomas Petazzoni
2013-02-06 22:41   ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-02-06 23:07     ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-02-07  8:04       ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-02-07  8:45         ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-02-07  9:09           ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-02-07  1:05     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-02-07  7:28       ` Thierry Reding
2013-02-07 17:49         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-02-07  8:24       ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-02-07 17:00         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-02-07 23:44           ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-01-28 18:56 ` [PATCH v2 23/27] arm: mvebu: PCIe Device Tree informations for OpenBlocks AX3-4 Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-28 18:56 ` [PATCH v2 24/27] arm: mvebu: PCIe Device Tree informations for Armada XP DB Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-28 18:56 ` [PATCH v2 25/27] arm: mvebu: PCIe Device Tree informations for Armada 370 Mirabox Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-28 18:56 ` [PATCH v2 26/27] arm: mvebu: PCIe Device Tree informations for Armada 370 DB Thomas Petazzoni
2013-01-28 18:56 ` [PATCH v2 27/27] arm: mvebu: update defconfig with PCI and USB support Thomas Petazzoni

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