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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgunthorpe@obsidianresearch.com>
To: Thierry Reding <thierry.reding@avionic-design.de>
Cc: Mitch Bradley <wmb@firmworks.com>,
	Lior Amsalem <alior@marvell.com>,
	Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>,
	Jason Cooper <jason@lakedaemon.net>, Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>,
	linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, devicetree-discuss@lists.ozlabs.org,
	Eran Ben-Avi <benavi@marvell.com>,
	Nadav Haklai <nadavh@marvell.com>,
	Maen Suleiman <maen@marvell.com>,
	Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	Shadi Ammouri <shadi@marvell.com>,
	Tawfik Bayouk <tawfik@marvell.com>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 24/32] pci: PCIe driver for Marvell Armada 370/XP systems
Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 16:08:54 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130312220854.GA23112@obsidianresearch.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130312213006.GA23717@avionic-0098.mockup.avionic-design.de>

On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 10:30:06PM +0100, Thierry Reding wrote:

> > Not going down the of_pci_* code paths for address translation at the
> > root port bridge nodes is certainly not right.
> 
> I'm not so sure. Why should the pcie-controller be a PCI device?

The spec is clear on that point as well:

 device_type
  A Standard Package conforming to this specification and corresponding
  to a device that implements a PCI bus shall implement this property
  with the string value "pci"

The children of a pcie-controller node are PCI devices, thus the
pcie-controller node 'implements a PCI bus'. Or, as you say 'device on
the processor/SoC/platform bus that bridges to the PCI bus'

Think of device_type as also meaning bus_type and it makes more
logical sense, the name is terrible, but its usage is governed by the
OF docs..

> The other alternative would be to amend the specification. Besides the
> fact that the specification says so I don't see any reason why this
> shouldn't be allowed.

'the specification says so' *IS* the reason. DT isn't a free for all
where you get to do whatever you want, or whatever 'feels' right. It
is supposed to be a stable, OS agnostic ABI. That means bindings have
to follow the specs (when available).

Maybe a future revision will support PCI-E ECAM, but we don't know
what that will look like, and I'm pretty sure you don't want to hold
up your patches until an IEEE committee gets around to deciding
something ;)

Jason

  reply	other threads:[~2013-03-12 22:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 135+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-02-12 16:28 [PATCH v3] PCIe support for the Armada 370 and Armada XP SoCs Thomas Petazzoni
2013-02-12 16:28 ` [PATCH 01/32] of/pci: Provide support for parsing PCI DT ranges property Thomas Petazzoni
2013-02-12 16:28 ` [PATCH 02/32] of/pci: Add of_pci_get_devfn() function Thomas Petazzoni
2013-02-12 16:28 ` [PATCH 03/32] of/pci: Add of_pci_parse_bus_range() function Thomas Petazzoni
2013-02-12 16:28 ` [PATCH 04/32] ARM: pci: Allow passing per-controller private data Thomas Petazzoni
2013-02-12 16:28 ` [PATCH 05/32] lib: devres: don't enclose pcim_*() functions in CONFIG_HAS_IOPORT Thomas Petazzoni
2013-02-12 18:00   ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-02-12 18:58     ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-02-12 22:36       ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-03-04 16:28         ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-03-04 20:30           ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-02-12 16:28 ` [PATCH 06/32] arm: pci: add a align_resource hook Thomas Petazzoni
2013-02-12 18:03   ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-02-12 19:01     ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-02-12 19:49       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-02-12 16:28 ` [PATCH 07/32] arm: mvebu: fix address-cells in mpic DT node Thomas Petazzoni
2013-02-12 16:28 ` [PATCH 08/32] clk: mvebu: create parent-child relation for PCIe clocks on Armada 370 Thomas Petazzoni
2013-02-12 16:28 ` [PATCH 09/32] clk: mvebu: add more PCIe clocks for Armada XP Thomas Petazzoni
2013-02-12 16:28 ` [PATCH 10/32] arm: plat-orion: introduce WIN_CTRL_ENABLE in address mapping code Thomas Petazzoni
2013-02-12 16:28 ` [PATCH 11/32] arm: plat-orion: refactor the orion_disable_wins() function Thomas Petazzoni
2013-02-12 16:28 ` [PATCH 12/32] plat-orion: introduce ORION_ADDR_MAP_NO_REMAP Thomas Petazzoni
2013-02-12 16:28 ` [PATCH 13/32] arm: mach-dove: use ORION_ADDR_MAP_NO_REMAP Thomas Petazzoni
2013-02-12 16:28 ` [PATCH 14/32] arm: mach-kirkwood: " Thomas Petazzoni
2013-02-12 16:28 ` [PATCH 15/32] arm: mach-mvebu: " Thomas Petazzoni
2013-02-12 16:28 ` [PATCH 16/32] arm: mach-orion5x: " Thomas Petazzoni
2013-02-12 16:28 ` [PATCH 17/32] arm: plat-orion: convert 'int remap' to 'u32 remap' Thomas Petazzoni
2013-02-12 16:28 ` [PATCH 18/32] arm: plat-orion: remove __init from addr-map functions needed after boot time Thomas Petazzoni
2013-02-12 16:28 ` [PATCH 19/32] arm: plat-orion: introduce orion_{alloc,free}_cpu_win() functions Thomas Petazzoni
2013-02-12 16:28 ` [PATCH 20/32] arm: plat-orion: remove __init from PCIe functions needed after boot time Thomas Petazzoni
2013-02-12 16:28 ` [PATCH 21/32] arm: mvebu: add functions to alloc/free PCIe decoding windows Thomas Petazzoni
2013-02-12 16:28 ` [PATCH 22/32] arm: plat-orion: make common PCIe code usable on mvebu Thomas Petazzoni
2013-02-12 16:28 ` [PATCH 23/32] pci: infrastructure to add drivers in drivers/pci/host Thomas Petazzoni
2013-02-12 16:28 ` [PATCH 24/32] pci: PCIe driver for Marvell Armada 370/XP systems Thomas Petazzoni
2013-02-12 18:30   ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-02-12 19:22     ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-02-12 19:49       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-02-12 22:59       ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-02-13  0:41         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-02-13  9:18           ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-02-13  9:31             ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-02-13 10:23               ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-02-13  8:23         ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-02-13  9:29           ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-02-13  9:40             ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-02-13 10:37               ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-03-06  9:50                 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-03-06 10:43                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-02-12 22:35   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-02-13  8:57     ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-02-13 18:04       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-02-13 19:33         ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-03-06  9:54     ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-03-06 12:11       ` Thierry Reding
2013-03-06 18:09         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-03-07  8:08           ` Thierry Reding
2013-03-07 17:49             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-03-07 19:48               ` Thierry Reding
2013-03-07 20:02                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-03-07 20:47                   ` Thierry Reding
2013-03-08  0:05                     ` Rob Herring
2013-03-08  7:14                       ` Thierry Reding
2013-03-08 16:52                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-03-08 19:12                           ` Thierry Reding
2013-03-08 19:43                             ` Mitch Bradley
2013-03-08 20:02                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-03-08 20:13                                 ` Thierry Reding
2013-03-10 15:09                                   ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-03-11  8:08                                     ` Thierry Reding
2013-03-08 23:46                                 ` Mitch Bradley
2013-03-09  1:31                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-03-10  4:52                                     ` Mitch Bradley
2013-03-10  6:55                                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-03-11  5:46                                         ` Mitch Bradley
2013-03-11  7:46                                           ` Thierry Reding
2013-03-11 18:04                                             ` Mitch Bradley
2013-03-11 18:23                                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-03-11 19:49                                                 ` Mitch Bradley
2013-03-11 18:15                                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-03-11 21:50                                             ` Mitch Bradley
2013-03-11 23:25                                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-03-11 23:38                                                 ` Mitch Bradley
2013-03-12  7:08                                                   ` Thierry Reding
2013-03-12 15:57                                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-03-12 20:38                                                       ` Thierry Reding
2013-03-12 21:03                                                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-03-12 21:30                                                           ` Thierry Reding
2013-03-12 22:08                                                             ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2013-03-12 23:25                                                               ` Mitch Bradley
2013-03-13  8:18                                                               ` Thierry Reding
2013-03-13 17:02                                                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-03-13 19:26                                                                   ` Thierry Reding
2013-03-13 19:59                                                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-03-13 20:54                                                                       ` Thierry Reding
2013-03-13 20:58                                                                     ` Mitch Bradley
2013-03-13 21:33                                                                       ` Thierry Reding
2013-03-13 22:48                                                                         ` Mitch Bradley
2013-03-14  0:43                                                                           ` Rob Herring
2013-03-14  1:20                                                                             ` Mitch Bradley
2013-03-14  7:11                                                                           ` Thierry Reding
2013-03-14  4:56                                                                         ` Stephen Warren
2013-03-13 22:02                                                                       ` Thierry Reding
2013-03-13 22:21                                                                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-03-14  9:01                                                                           ` Thierry Reding
2013-03-14 17:25                                                                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-03-14 20:38                                                                               ` Thierry Reding
2013-03-14 21:05                                                                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-03-14 21:10                                                                                 ` Mitch Bradley
2013-03-14 21:09                                                                               ` Thierry Reding
2013-03-14 21:29                                                                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-03-14 21:37                                                                                   ` Thierry Reding
2013-03-13 22:22                                                                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-03-09  8:58                             ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-03-08 23:12                         ` Rob Herring
2013-03-09 11:10                           ` Thierry Reding
2013-03-10  5:04                           ` Mitch Bradley
2013-03-10 15:06                             ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-03-10 18:33                               ` Mitch Bradley
2013-02-15  0:36   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2013-02-15  5:06     ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-02-15 16:26       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2013-02-15 16:44         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-02-12 16:28 ` [PATCH 25/32] arm: mvebu: PCIe support is now available on mvebu Thomas Petazzoni
2013-02-12 16:29 ` [PATCH 26/32] arm: mvebu: add PCIe Device Tree informations for Armada 370 Thomas Petazzoni
2013-02-12 16:29 ` [PATCH 27/32] arm: mvebu: add PCIe Device Tree informations for Armada XP Thomas Petazzoni
2013-02-12 16:29 ` [PATCH 28/32] arm: mvebu: PCIe Device Tree informations for OpenBlocks AX3-4 Thomas Petazzoni
2013-02-12 16:29 ` [PATCH 29/32] arm: mvebu: PCIe Device Tree informations for Armada XP DB Thomas Petazzoni
2013-02-12 16:29 ` [PATCH 30/32] arm: mvebu: PCIe Device Tree informations for Armada 370 Mirabox Thomas Petazzoni
2013-02-12 16:29 ` [PATCH 31/32] arm: mvebu: PCIe Device Tree informations for Armada 370 DB Thomas Petazzoni
2013-02-12 16:29 ` [PATCH 32/32] arm: mvebu: update defconfig with PCI and USB support Thomas Petazzoni
2013-02-12 18:12 ` [PATCH v3] PCIe support for the Armada 370 and Armada XP SoCs Arnd Bergmann
2013-02-12 19:04   ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-02-13  8:50   ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-02-13  9:37     ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-02-13 15:27 ` Christophe Vu-Brugier
2013-02-13 15:30   ` Thomas Petazzoni

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