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From: Michael Ellerman <michael@ellerman.id.au>
To: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Cc: Alexander Gordeev <agordeev@redhat.com>,
	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"x86@kernel.org" <x86@kernel.org>,
	"linux-pci@vger.kernel.org" <linux-pci@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-ide@vger.kernel.org" <linux-ide@vger.kernel.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>, Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>,
	Jan Beulich <JBeulich@suse.com>,
	Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/6] PCI/MSI: Factor out pci_get_msi_cap() interface
Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2013 17:35:48 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131001073548.GI17966@concordia> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130918142231.GA21650@mtj.dyndns.org>

On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 09:22:31AM -0500, Tejun Heo wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 11:48:00AM +0200, Alexander Gordeev wrote:
> > On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 12:30:23AM +1000, Michael Ellerman wrote:
> > > How about no?
> > > 
> > > We have a small number of MSIs available, limited by hardware &
> > > firmware, if we don't impose a quota then the first device that probes
> > > will get most/all of the MSIs and other devices miss out.
> > 
> > Out of curiosity - how pSeries has had done it without quotas before
> > 448e2ca ("powerpc/pseries: Implement a quota system for MSIs")?
> 
> Hmmm... do we need to treat this any differently?  If the platform
> can't allocate full range of requested MSIs, just failing should be
> enough regardless of why such allocation can't be met, no?
> 
> > > Anyway I don't see what problem you're trying to solve? I agree the
> > > -ve/0/+ve return value pattern is ugly, but it's hardly the end of the
> > > world.
> > 
> > Well, the interface recently has been re-classified from "ugly" to
> > "unnecessarily complex and actively harmful" in Tejun's words ;)
> 
> LOL. :)
> 
> > Indeed, I checked most of the drivers and it is incredible how people
> > are creative in misusing the interface: from innocent pci_disable_msix()
> > calls when if pci_enable_msix() failed to assuming MSI-Xs were enabled
> > if pci_enable_msix() returned a positive value (apparently untested).
> > 
> > Roughly third of the drivers just do not care and bail out once
> > pci_enable_msix() has not succeeded. Not sure how many of these are
> > mandated by the hardware.
> 
> Yeah, I mean, this type of interface is a trap.  People have to
> actively resist to avoid doing silly stuff which is a lot to ask.

I really think you're overstating the complexity here.

Functions typically return a boolean   -> nothing to see here
This function returns a tristate value -> brain explosion!


> > 	/*
> > 	 * Retrieving 'nvec' by means other than pci_msix_table_size()
> > 	 */
> > 
> > 	rc = pci_get_msix_limit(pdev);
> > 	if (rc < 0)
> > 		return rc;
> > 
> > 	/*
> > 	 * nvec = min(rc, nvec);
> > 	 */
> > 
> > 	for (i = 0; i < nvec; i++)
> > 		msix_entry[i].entry = i;
> > 
> > 	rc = pci_enable_msix(pdev, msix_entry, nvec);
> > 	if (rc)
> > 		return rc;
> 
> I really think what we should do is
> 
> * Determine the number of MSIs the controller wants.  Don't worry
>   about quotas or limits or anything.  Just determine the number
>   necessary to enable enhanced interrupt handling.
> 	
> * Try allocating that number of MSIs.  If it fails, then just revert
>   to single interrupt mode.  It's not the end of the world and mostly
>   guaranteed to work.  Let's please not even try to do partial
>   multiple interrupts.  I really don't think it's worth the risk or
>   complexity.

It will potentially break existing setups on our hardware.

Can I make that any clearer?

cheers

  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-10-01  7:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-09-05 12:51 [PATCH v2 0/6] AHCI: Conserve interrupts with pci_enable_msi_block_part() interface Alexander Gordeev
2013-09-05 12:52 ` [PATCH v2 1/6] PCI/MSI: Introduce " Alexander Gordeev
2013-09-05 12:52 ` [PATCH v2 2/6] PCI/MSI: Factor out pci_get_msi_cap() interface Alexander Gordeev
2013-09-05 13:09   ` Tejun Heo
2013-09-05 15:03     ` Alexander Gordeev
2013-09-05 15:04       ` Tejun Heo
2013-09-05 15:40         ` Alexander Gordeev
2013-09-05 15:44           ` Tejun Heo
2013-09-05 18:54             ` Alexander Gordeev
2013-09-05 20:06               ` Tejun Heo
2013-09-06 16:01                 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2013-09-06 16:06                   ` Tejun Heo
2013-09-06 23:32                     ` Bjorn Helgaas
2013-09-09 15:20                       ` Alexander Gordeev
2013-09-09 15:22                         ` [PATCH 1/9] PCI/MSI/PPC: Fix wrong RTAS error code reporting Alexander Gordeev
2013-09-09 15:22                         ` [PATCH 2/9] PCI/MSI/PPC: Make return values only 0/-errno when MSIs allocated Alexander Gordeev
2013-09-09 15:24                         ` [PATCH 3/9] PCI/MSI/x86: " Alexander Gordeev
2013-09-09 15:24                         ` [PATCH 4/9] PCI/MSI/MIPS: " Alexander Gordeev
2013-09-09 15:25                         ` [PATCH 2/9] PCI/MSI/PPC: Make return values only 0/-errno when MSIs allocated[PATCH 5/9] PCI/MSI/s390: " Alexander Gordeev
2013-09-09 15:38                           ` scrap this one Alexander Gordeev
2013-09-09 15:26                         ` [PATCH 5/9] PCI/MSI/s390: Make return values only 0/-errno when MSIs allocated Alexander Gordeev
2013-09-10 12:42                           ` Sergei Shtylyov
2013-09-10 13:09                             ` Alexander Gordeev
2013-09-09 15:27                         ` [PATCH 6/9] PCI/MSI/s390: Remove superfluous check of MSI type Alexander Gordeev
2013-09-09 15:28                         ` [PATCH 7/9] PCI/MSI/s390: Make return values only 0/-errno when MSIs allocated Alexander Gordeev
2013-09-09 15:29                         ` [PATCH 8/9] PCI/MSI: Fix return value when populate_msi_sysfs() failed Alexander Gordeev
2013-09-09 15:29                         ` [PATCH 9/9] PCI/MSI: Make return values only 0/-errno when MSIs allocated Alexander Gordeev
2013-09-09 15:37                         ` [PATCH v2 2/6] PCI/MSI: Factor out pci_get_msi_cap() interface Tejun Heo
2013-09-09 15:45                           ` Alexander Gordeev
2013-09-16 10:22                         ` Alexander Gordeev
2013-09-17 14:30                           ` Michael Ellerman
2013-09-18  9:48                             ` Alexander Gordeev
2013-09-18 14:22                               ` Tejun Heo
2013-09-18 16:50                                 ` Alexander Gordeev
2013-09-20  8:24                                   ` Alexander Gordeev
2013-09-20 12:27                                     ` Tejun Heo
2013-09-25 18:02                                       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2013-09-25 20:58                                         ` Alexander Gordeev
2013-09-25 21:00                                           ` Tejun Heo
2013-09-26  7:46                                             ` Alexander Gordeev
2013-09-26  8:58                                               ` David Laight
2013-09-26 10:45                                                 ` Alexander Gordeev
2013-09-26 11:34                                                   ` David Laight
2013-09-26 12:13                                                     ` Alexander Gordeev
2013-09-26 13:11                                               ` Tejun Heo
2013-09-26 14:39                                                 ` Alexander Gordeev
2013-09-26 14:42                                                   ` Tejun Heo
2013-10-01  7:19                                                   ` Michael Ellerman
2013-09-20 12:26                                   ` Tejun Heo
2013-10-01  7:26                                     ` Michael Ellerman
2013-10-01  7:35                                 ` Michael Ellerman [this message]
2013-10-01 11:55                                   ` Tejun Heo
2013-10-02  2:33                                     ` Michael Ellerman
2013-10-02  3:23                                       ` Tejun Heo
2013-09-26 12:32                               ` Mark Lord
2013-09-26 13:03                                 ` Alexander Gordeev
2013-10-02  2:46                                   ` Mark Lord
2013-10-02  7:26                                     ` Alexander Gordeev
2013-12-18 18:26                                 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2013-10-01  7:51                               ` Michael Ellerman
2013-10-01 10:35                                 ` Alexander Gordeev
2013-10-02  2:43                                   ` Michael Ellerman
2013-10-02  7:10                                     ` Alexander Gordeev
2013-09-06 13:17           ` Alexander Gordeev
2013-09-05 12:53 ` [PATCH v2 3/6] MSI/x86: Support pci_enable_msi_block_part() interface Alexander Gordeev
2013-09-05 12:53 ` [PATCH v2 4/6] AHCI: Conserve interrupts with " Alexander Gordeev
2013-09-05 13:10   ` Tejun Heo
2013-09-05 15:23     ` Alexander Gordeev
2013-09-05 12:54 ` [PATCH v2 5/6] AHCI: Check MRSM bit when multiple MSIs enabled Alexander Gordeev
2013-09-05 13:11   ` Tejun Heo
2013-09-05 15:25     ` Alexander Gordeev
2013-09-05 14:32   ` Sergei Shtylyov
2013-09-05 12:54 ` [PATCH v2 6/6] PCI/MSI: Get rid of pci_enable_msi_block_auto() interface Alexander Gordeev

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