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From: Michael Ellerman <michael@ellerman.id.au>
To: Alexander Gordeev <agordeev@redhat.com>
Cc: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
	Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"x86@kernel.org" <x86@kernel.org>,
	"linux-pci@vger.kernel.org" <linux-pci@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-ide@vger.kernel.org" <linux-ide@vger.kernel.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>, Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>,
	Jan Beulich <JBeulich@suse.com>,
	Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/6] PCI/MSI: Factor out pci_get_msi_cap() interface
Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2013 12:43:24 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131002024324.GC22748@concordia> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131001103526.GA5053@dhcp-26-207.brq.redhat.com>

On Tue, Oct 01, 2013 at 12:35:27PM +0200, Alexander Gordeev wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 01, 2013 at 05:51:33PM +1000, Michael Ellerman wrote:
> > The disadvantage is that any restriction imposed on us above the quota
> > can only be reported as an error from pci_enable_msix().
> > 
> > The quota code, called from pci_get_msix_limit(), can only do so much to
> > interogate firmware about the limitations. The ultimate way to check if
> > firmware will give us enough MSIs is to try and allocate them. But we
> > can't do that from pci_get_msix_limit() because the driver is not asking
> > us to enable MSIs, just query them.
> 
> If things are this way then pci_enable_msix() already exposed to this
> problem internally on pSeries.
> 
> I see that even successful quota checks in rtas_msi_check_device() and
> rtas_setup_msi_irqs() do not guarantee (as you say) that firmware will
> give enough MSIs. Hence, pci_enable_msix() might fail even though the
> its quota checks succeeded.

Yes, but it can report that failure to the caller, which can then retry.

> Therefore, nothing will really change if we make pci_get_msix_limit() check
> quota and hope the follow-up call to pci_enable_msix() succeeded.

No that's not equivalent. Under your scheme if pci_enable_msix() fails
then the caller just bails, it will never try again with a lower number.

> (Of course, we could allocate-deallocate MSIs at check time, but I think it
> is an overkill).

It's not only overkill, it's messing with the device behind the drivers
back, which is definitely a no-no in my opinion.
 
> > You'll also need to add another arch hook, for the quota check, and
> > we'll have to add it to our per-platform indirection as well.
> 
> Already, in a branch, hidden from Bjorn & Tejun eyes ;)
> 
> > All a lot of bother for no real gain IMHO.
> 
> Well, I do not have a strong opinion here. I leave it to the ones who have :)
> But few drivers have became clearer as result of this change (and messy ones
> are still messy).

Amen.

cheers

  reply	other threads:[~2013-10-02  2:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-09-05 12:51 [PATCH v2 0/6] AHCI: Conserve interrupts with pci_enable_msi_block_part() interface Alexander Gordeev
2013-09-05 12:52 ` [PATCH v2 1/6] PCI/MSI: Introduce " Alexander Gordeev
2013-09-05 12:52 ` [PATCH v2 2/6] PCI/MSI: Factor out pci_get_msi_cap() interface Alexander Gordeev
2013-09-05 13:09   ` Tejun Heo
2013-09-05 15:03     ` Alexander Gordeev
2013-09-05 15:04       ` Tejun Heo
2013-09-05 15:40         ` Alexander Gordeev
2013-09-05 15:44           ` Tejun Heo
2013-09-05 18:54             ` Alexander Gordeev
2013-09-05 20:06               ` Tejun Heo
2013-09-06 16:01                 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2013-09-06 16:06                   ` Tejun Heo
2013-09-06 23:32                     ` Bjorn Helgaas
2013-09-09 15:20                       ` Alexander Gordeev
2013-09-09 15:22                         ` [PATCH 1/9] PCI/MSI/PPC: Fix wrong RTAS error code reporting Alexander Gordeev
2013-09-09 15:22                         ` [PATCH 2/9] PCI/MSI/PPC: Make return values only 0/-errno when MSIs allocated Alexander Gordeev
2013-09-09 15:24                         ` [PATCH 3/9] PCI/MSI/x86: " Alexander Gordeev
2013-09-09 15:24                         ` [PATCH 4/9] PCI/MSI/MIPS: " Alexander Gordeev
2013-09-09 15:25                         ` [PATCH 2/9] PCI/MSI/PPC: Make return values only 0/-errno when MSIs allocated[PATCH 5/9] PCI/MSI/s390: " Alexander Gordeev
2013-09-09 15:38                           ` scrap this one Alexander Gordeev
2013-09-09 15:26                         ` [PATCH 5/9] PCI/MSI/s390: Make return values only 0/-errno when MSIs allocated Alexander Gordeev
2013-09-10 12:42                           ` Sergei Shtylyov
2013-09-10 13:09                             ` Alexander Gordeev
2013-09-09 15:27                         ` [PATCH 6/9] PCI/MSI/s390: Remove superfluous check of MSI type Alexander Gordeev
2013-09-09 15:28                         ` [PATCH 7/9] PCI/MSI/s390: Make return values only 0/-errno when MSIs allocated Alexander Gordeev
2013-09-09 15:29                         ` [PATCH 8/9] PCI/MSI: Fix return value when populate_msi_sysfs() failed Alexander Gordeev
2013-09-09 15:29                         ` [PATCH 9/9] PCI/MSI: Make return values only 0/-errno when MSIs allocated Alexander Gordeev
2013-09-09 15:37                         ` [PATCH v2 2/6] PCI/MSI: Factor out pci_get_msi_cap() interface Tejun Heo
2013-09-09 15:45                           ` Alexander Gordeev
2013-09-16 10:22                         ` Alexander Gordeev
2013-09-17 14:30                           ` Michael Ellerman
2013-09-18  9:48                             ` Alexander Gordeev
2013-09-18 14:22                               ` Tejun Heo
2013-09-18 16:50                                 ` Alexander Gordeev
2013-09-20  8:24                                   ` Alexander Gordeev
2013-09-20 12:27                                     ` Tejun Heo
2013-09-25 18:02                                       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2013-09-25 20:58                                         ` Alexander Gordeev
2013-09-25 21:00                                           ` Tejun Heo
2013-09-26  7:46                                             ` Alexander Gordeev
2013-09-26  8:58                                               ` David Laight
2013-09-26 10:45                                                 ` Alexander Gordeev
2013-09-26 11:34                                                   ` David Laight
2013-09-26 12:13                                                     ` Alexander Gordeev
2013-09-26 13:11                                               ` Tejun Heo
2013-09-26 14:39                                                 ` Alexander Gordeev
2013-09-26 14:42                                                   ` Tejun Heo
2013-10-01  7:19                                                   ` Michael Ellerman
2013-09-20 12:26                                   ` Tejun Heo
2013-10-01  7:26                                     ` Michael Ellerman
2013-10-01  7:35                                 ` Michael Ellerman
2013-10-01 11:55                                   ` Tejun Heo
2013-10-02  2:33                                     ` Michael Ellerman
2013-10-02  3:23                                       ` Tejun Heo
2013-09-26 12:32                               ` Mark Lord
2013-09-26 13:03                                 ` Alexander Gordeev
2013-10-02  2:46                                   ` Mark Lord
2013-10-02  7:26                                     ` Alexander Gordeev
2013-12-18 18:26                                 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2013-10-01  7:51                               ` Michael Ellerman
2013-10-01 10:35                                 ` Alexander Gordeev
2013-10-02  2:43                                   ` Michael Ellerman [this message]
2013-10-02  7:10                                     ` Alexander Gordeev
2013-09-06 13:17           ` Alexander Gordeev
2013-09-05 12:53 ` [PATCH v2 3/6] MSI/x86: Support pci_enable_msi_block_part() interface Alexander Gordeev
2013-09-05 12:53 ` [PATCH v2 4/6] AHCI: Conserve interrupts with " Alexander Gordeev
2013-09-05 13:10   ` Tejun Heo
2013-09-05 15:23     ` Alexander Gordeev
2013-09-05 12:54 ` [PATCH v2 5/6] AHCI: Check MRSM bit when multiple MSIs enabled Alexander Gordeev
2013-09-05 13:11   ` Tejun Heo
2013-09-05 15:25     ` Alexander Gordeev
2013-09-05 14:32   ` Sergei Shtylyov
2013-09-05 12:54 ` [PATCH v2 6/6] PCI/MSI: Get rid of pci_enable_msi_block_auto() interface Alexander Gordeev

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