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From: Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>
To: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
Cc: Bill Sumner <bill.sumner@hp.com>,
	"Hoemann, Jerry" <jerry.hoemann@hp.com>,
	indou.takao@jp.fujitsu.com, bhe@redhat.com,
	linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, kexec@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	doug.hatch@hp.com, ishii.hironobu@jp.fujitsu.com,
	bhelgaas@google.com, zhenhua@hp.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/8] iommu/vt-d: Fix crash dump failure caused by legacy DMA/IO
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2014 15:32:59 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140702133258.GN26537@8bytes.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1398854973.12733.23.camel@i7.infradead.org>

Hi David,

On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 11:49:33AM +0100, David Woodhouse wrote:
> There could be all kinds of existing mappings in the DMA page tables,
> and I'm not sure it's safe to preserve them. What prevents the crashdump
> kernel from trying to use any of the physical pages which are
> accessible, and which could thus be corrupted by stray DMA?
> 
> In fact, the old kernel could even have set up 1:1 passthrough mappings
> for some devices, which would then be able to DMA *anywhere*. Surely we
> need to prevent that?

Ideally we would prevent that, yes. But the problem is that a failed DMA
transaction might put the device into an unrecoverable state. Usually
any in-flight DMA transactions should only target buffers set up by the
previous kernel and not corrupt any data.

> After the last round of this patchset, we discussed a potential
> improvement where you point every virtual bus address at the *same*
> physical scratch page.

That is a solution to prevent the in-flight DMA failures. But what
happens when there is some in-flight DMA to a disk to write some inodes
or a new superblock. Then this scratch address-space may cause
filesystem corruption at worst.

So with this in mind I would prefer initially taking over the
page-tables from the old kernel before the device drivers re-initialize
the devices.


	Joerg



  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-07-02 13:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-04-25  0:36 [PATCH 0/8] iommu/vt-d: Fix crash dump failure caused by legacy DMA/IO Bill Sumner
2014-04-25  0:36 ` [PATCH 1/8] iommu/vt-d: Fix a few existing lines for checkpatch.pl Bill Sumner
2014-04-25  0:36 ` [PATCH 2/8] iommu/vt-d: Consolidate lines for a new private header Bill Sumner
2014-04-25  0:36 ` [PATCH 3/8] iommu/vt-d: Create intel-iommu-private.h Bill Sumner
2014-04-25  0:36 ` [PATCH 4/8] iommu/vt-d: Update iommu_attach_domain() and its callers Bill Sumner
2014-04-25  0:36 ` [PATCH 5/8] iommu/vt-d: Items required for kdump Bill Sumner
2014-04-25  0:36 ` [PATCH 6/8] iommu/vt-d: Create intel-iommu-kdump.c Bill Sumner
2014-04-25  0:36 ` [PATCH 7/8] iommu/vt-d: Add domain-id functions to intel-iommu-kdump.c Bill Sumner
2014-04-25  0:36 ` [PATCH 8/8] iommu/vt-d: Changes to support kdump Bill Sumner
2014-04-30 10:49 ` [PATCH 0/8] iommu/vt-d: Fix crash dump failure caused by legacy DMA/IO David Woodhouse
2014-05-02 20:13   ` Jerry Hoemann
2014-05-07 18:25   ` Jerry Hoemann
2014-07-02 13:32   ` Joerg Roedel [this message]
2014-07-11 16:27     ` Jerry Hoemann
2014-10-15  8:10       ` Li, ZhenHua
2014-10-15  8:45         ` Li, ZhenHua
2014-10-22  2:16     ` Bjorn Helgaas
2014-10-22  2:47       ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-10-22  3:08         ` Li, ZhenHua
2014-10-22 13:21       ` Joerg Roedel
2014-10-22 18:26         ` Bjorn Helgaas

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