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From: Dave Young <dyoung@redhat.com>
To: Baoquan He <bhe@redhat.com>
Cc: "Li, ZhenHua" <zhen-hual@hp.com>,
	dwmw2@infradead.org, indou.takao@jp.fujitsu.com, joro@8bytes.org,
	vgoyal@redhat.com, iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-pci@vger.kernel.org,
	kexec@lists.infradead.org, alex.williamson@redhat.com,
	ddutile@redhat.com, ishii.hironobu@jp.fujitsu.com,
	bhelgaas@google.com, doug.hatch@hp.com, jerry.hoemann@hp.com,
	tom.vaden@hp.com, li.zhang6@hp.com, lisa.mitchell@hp.com,
	billsumnerlinux@gmail.com, rwright@hp.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v10 0/10] iommu/vt-d: Fix intel vt-d faults in kdump kernel
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2015 16:49:57 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150424084957.GC23912@dhcp-128-91.nay.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150424083530.GD4458@dhcp-16-116.nay.redhat.com>

On 04/24/15 at 04:35pm, Baoquan He wrote:
> On 04/24/15 at 04:25pm, Dave Young wrote:
> > Hi, Baoquan
> > 
> > > I support this patchset.
> > > 
> > > We should not fear oldmem since reserved crashkernel region is similar.
> > > No one can guarantee that any crazy code won't step into crashkernel
> > > region just because 1st kernel says it's reversed for kdump kernel. Here
> > > the root table and context tables are also not built to allow legal code
> > > to danamge. Both of them has the risk to be corrupted, for trying our
> > > best to get a dumped vmcore the risk is worth being taken.
> > 
> > old mem is mapped in 1st kernel so compare with the reserved crashkernel
> > they are more likely to be corrupted. they are totally different. 
> 
> Could you tell how and why they are different? Wrong code will choose
> root tables and context tables to danamge when they totally lose
> control?

iommu will map io address to system ram, right? not to reserved ram, but
yes I'm assuming the page table is right, but I was worrying they are corrupted
while kernel panic is happening.

> 
> > 
> > > 
> > > And the resetting pci way has been NACKed by David Woodhouse, the
> > > maintainer of intel iommu. Because the place calling the resetting pci
> > > code is ugly before kdump kernel or in kdump kernel. And as he said a
> > > certain device made mistakes why we blame on all devices. We should fix
> > > that device who made mistakes. 
> > 
> > Resetting pci bus is not ugly than fixing a problem with risk and to fix
> > the problem it introduced in the future.
> 
> There's a problem, we fix the problem. If that's uglier, I need redefine
> the 'ugly' in my personal dict. You mean the problem it could introduce
> is wrong code will damage root table and context tables, why don't we
> fix that wrong code, but blame innocent context tables? So you mean
> these tables should deserve being damaged by wrong code?

I'm more than happy to see this issue can be fixed in the patchset, I do not
agree to add the code there with such problems. OTOH, for now seems there's
no way to fix it.

> 
> > 
> > I know it is late to speak out, but sorry I still object and have to NACK this
> > oldmem approach from my point.
> > 
> > Thanks
> > Dave

  reply	other threads:[~2015-04-24  8:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-04-10  8:42 [PATCH v10 0/10] iommu/vt-d: Fix intel vt-d faults in kdump kernel Li, Zhen-Hua
2015-04-10  8:42 ` [PATCH v10 01/10] iommu/vt-d: New function to attach domain with id Li, Zhen-Hua
2015-04-10  8:42 ` [PATCH v10 02/10] iommu/vt-d: Items required for kdump Li, Zhen-Hua
2015-04-10  8:42 ` [PATCH v10 03/10] iommu/vt-d: Function to get old context entry Li, Zhen-Hua
2015-04-10  8:42 ` [PATCH v10 04/10] iommu/vt-d: functions to copy data from old mem Li, Zhen-Hua
2015-05-07  7:49   ` Baoquan He
2015-05-07  8:33     ` Li, ZhenHua
2015-04-10  8:42 ` [PATCH v10 05/10] iommu/vt-d: Add functions to load and save old re Li, Zhen-Hua
2015-04-10  8:42 ` [PATCH v10 06/10] iommu/vt-d: datatypes and functions used for kdump Li, Zhen-Hua
2015-04-10  8:42 ` [PATCH v10 07/10] iommu/vt-d: enable kdump support in iommu module Li, Zhen-Hua
2015-04-10  8:42 ` [PATCH v10 08/10] iommu/vt-d: assign new page table for dma_map Li, Zhen-Hua
2015-04-10  8:42 ` [PATCH v10 09/10] iommu/vt-d: Copy functions for irte Li, Zhen-Hua
2015-04-10  8:42 ` [PATCH v10 10/10] iommu/vt-d: Use old irte in kdump kernel Li, Zhen-Hua
2015-04-15  0:57 ` [PATCH v10 0/10] iommu/vt-d: Fix intel vt-d faults " Dave Young
2015-04-15  5:47   ` Li, ZhenHua
2015-04-15  6:48     ` Dave Young
2015-04-21  1:39       ` Li, ZhenHua
2015-04-21  2:53         ` Dave Young
2015-04-24  8:01       ` Baoquan He
2015-04-24  8:25         ` Dave Young
2015-04-24  8:35           ` Baoquan He
2015-04-24  8:49             ` Dave Young [this message]
2015-04-28  8:54               ` Baoquan He
2015-04-28  9:00                 ` Li, ZhenHua
2015-05-04 16:23               ` Joerg Roedel
2015-05-05  6:14                 ` Dave Young
2015-05-05 15:31                   ` Joerg Roedel
2015-05-06  1:51                     ` Dave Young
2015-05-06  2:37                       ` Li, ZhenHua
2015-05-06  8:25                       ` Joerg Roedel
2015-04-23  8:35 ` Li, ZhenHua
2015-04-23  8:38   ` Li, ZhenHua
2015-04-29 11:20 ` Baoquan He
2015-05-03  8:55   ` Baoquan He
2015-05-04  3:06     ` Li, ZhenHua
2015-05-04  3:17       ` Baoquan He
2015-05-07 17:32         ` Joerg Roedel
2015-05-08  1:00           ` Li, ZhenHua
2015-06-11 15:40 ` David Woodhouse

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