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From: "Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@suse.com>
To: Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
Cc: "Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@do-not-panic.com>,
	corbet@lwn.net, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@elte.hu,
	gnomes@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, gregkh@linuxfoundation.org,
	jkosina@suse.cz, bhelgaas@google.com, linux-pci@vger.kernel.org,
	xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org, bp@suse.de
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Documentation: extend use case for EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL()
Date: Fri, 29 May 2015 01:10:44 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150528231044.GY23057@wotan.suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150528215618.GE7232@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>

On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 10:56:19PM +0100, Al Viro wrote:
> On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 11:17:36PM +0200, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote:
> > > ... while some of us consider that as pointless posturing and will refuse
> > > to merge such exports regardless.
> > 
> > Can you elaborate why, for those maintainers not aware of such positions?
> 
> *shrug*
> 
> Either one states that all modules are derivative works of the kernel,
> period (in which case attaching _GPL to specific exports is completely
> pointless), or it's a claim that this specific export is something
> special on its own, which is a fairly strong claim, completely unfounded
> more often than not.  In the worst cases it's the former being misrepresented
> as the latter.  That only serves to weaken our position in case of copyright
> violations, IMO.  When obviously BS claims like "encoding and decoding
> of UIDs between the numeric values as seen by userland and stored on
> filesystem and opaque pointers as used by the userns stuff is so special
> that its use alone is sufficient to change whether the code is derivative
> of the kernel or not" are thrown around, we end up with weaker protection,
> not stronger one.  If something like _that_ makes the difference between
> derived and non-derived, the former can't be worth much...

Great, thanks. This seems to be in alignment with those who have all along said
they've used EXPORT_SYMBOL() to mean what EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL() users now use it
for. Nevertheless -- maintainers should know that some stubborn developers use
EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL() for its technical merit should violators abuse those
symbols.

  Luis

  reply	other threads:[~2015-05-28 23:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-05-28 18:56 [PATCH] Documentation: extend use case for EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL() Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-05-28 19:09 ` Jonathan Corbet
2015-05-28 19:18   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-05-28 19:35     ` Jonathan Corbet
2015-05-28 20:07 ` Al Viro
2015-05-28 21:17   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-05-28 21:56     ` Al Viro
2015-05-28 23:10       ` Luis R. Rodriguez [this message]
2015-05-29  5:00         ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-05-29 17:40           ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-05-29  1:30 ` Rob Landley

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