From: Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Fam Zheng <famz@redhat.com>,
Yinghai Lu <yhlu.kernel.send@gmail.com>,
Ulrich Obergfell <uobergfe@redhat.com>,
Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
linux-pci@vger.kernel.org,
virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7] pci: quirk to skip msi disable on shutdown
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2015 07:36:40 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150922123640.GT25767@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150922131303-mutt-send-email-mst@redhat.com>
On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 02:29:03PM +0300, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 05:10:43PM -0500, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
> > On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 10:42:13PM +0300, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > > On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 01:21:47PM -0500, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
> > > > On Sun, Sep 06, 2015 at 06:32:35PM +0300, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > > > > On some hypervisors, virtio devices tend to generate spurious interrupts
> > > > > when switching between MSI and non-MSI mode. Normally, either MSI or
> > > > > non-MSI is used and all is well, but during shutdown, linux disables MSI
> > > > > which then causes an "irq %d: nobody cared" message, with irq being
> > > > > subsequently disabled.
> > > >
> > > > My understanding is:
> > > >
> > > > Linux disables MSI/MSI-X during device shutdown. If the device
> > > > signals an interrupt after that, it may use INTx.
> > > >
> > > > This INTx interrupt is not necessarily spurious. Using INTx to signal an
> > > > interrupt that occurs when MSI is disabled seems like reasonable behavior
> > > > for any PCI device.
> > > > And it doesn't seem related to switching between MSI and non-MSI mode.
> > > > Yes, the INTx happens *after* disabling MSI, but it is not at all
> > > > *because* we disabled MSI. So I wouldn't say "they generate spurious
> > > > interrupts when switching between MSI and non-MSI."
> > > >
> > > > Why doesn't virtio-pci just register an INTx handler in addition to an MSI
> > > > handler?
> > >
> > > The handler causes an expensive exit to the hypervisor,
> > > and the INTx lines are shared with other devices.
> >
> > Do we care? Is this a performance path? I thought we were in a kexec
> > shutdown path.
>
> Yes but the handler would always have to be registered, right?
The pci_device_shutdown() path you're modifying calls drv->shutdown()
immediately before disabling MSI, so I suppose you could register a
handler in a virtio shutdown method.
> > > Seems silly to slow them down just so we can do something
> > > that triggers the device bug. The bus master is disabled by that time,
> > > if linux can just desist from touching MSI enable device won't
> > > send either INTx (because MSI is on) or MSI
> > > (because bus master is on) and all will be well.
> >
> > It would also be silly to put special-purpose code in the PCI core
> > if there's a reasonable way to handle this in a driver.
> >
> > Can you describe exactly what the device bug is? Apparently you're
> > saying that if we shut down MSI, it triggers the bug? And I guess
> > you're talking about a virtio device as implemented in qemu or other
> > hypervisors?
>
> Yes. Basically depending on an internal device state, disabling MSI
> sometimes wedges it. The most easy to debug effect is if it starts
> sending INTx interrupts, for which there's no handler currently.
> Full system reset always gets us out of the bad state.
If disabling MSI causes the device to use INTx interrupts, that sounds
perfectly normal to me.
If disabling MSI causes the device to hang, *that* sounds like a bug.
Since this is virtio, we should be able to figure out exactly where
that happens. Do you have a pointer to a virtio bug report, or even a
QEMU commit that fixes this virtio bug?
I understand that even if there is a virtio fix in QEMU, we want a
solution that works even with an old QEMU that doesn't contain the
fix. But a pointer to a QEMU fix would really help understand and
document the Linux fix.
Bjorn
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-09-22 12:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-09-06 15:32 [PATCH v7] pci: quirk to skip msi disable on shutdown Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-09-17 15:44 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2015-09-17 15:49 ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-09-17 16:03 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-09-17 15:56 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-09-21 18:21 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2015-09-21 19:42 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-09-21 22:10 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2015-09-22 11:29 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-09-22 12:36 ` Bjorn Helgaas [this message]
2015-09-22 14:07 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-09-22 15:46 ` Bjorn Helgaas
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