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From: Peter Wu <peter@lekensteyn.nl>
To: Mika Westerberg <mika.westerberg@linux.intel.com>
Cc: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	Lukas Wunner <lukas@wunner.de>,
	Kilian Singer <kilian.singer@quantumtechnology.info>,
	Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>,
	linux-pci <linux-pci@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: PCI: Revert "PCI: Add runtime PM support for PCIe ports"
Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2017 16:15:47 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170103151547.GB9763@al> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170103095158.GH3353@lahna.fi.intel.com>

(replying to earlier comments in the thread:)

Changing (lowering?) the cut-off date would not help as the laptop has
DMI year 2016. (For the long-term, it would probably be desirable to
lower the date or otherwise add detection of _PR3, see
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=98505#c23).

Reverting the patch is not a good idea either, it would reintroduce the
memory corruption that have plagued some Lenovo models
(https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=78530).

On Tue, Jan 03, 2017 at 11:51:58AM +0200, Mika Westerberg wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 02, 2017 at 10:31:07PM +0100, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > On Monday, January 02, 2017 04:48:52 PM Mika Westerberg wrote:
> > > On Mon, Jan 02, 2017 at 02:10:19PM +0200, Mika Westerberg wrote:
> > > > I've checked the acpidump of this machine and it does not seem to be a
> > > > traditional Optimus machine. At least this one is missing the magic _DSM
> > > > which is used to gather capabilities of the graphics device.
> > > > 
> > > > However, it does have _PR3 and it is attached to the device
> > > > (_SB.PCI0.PEG) itself, not the root port.
> > > 
> > > Nah, actually PEG is the root port. So it certainly looks like
> > > a traditional Optimus machine.
> > 
> > So can we quirk that thing somehow and see if that helps (for debugging
> > purposes at least)?
> 
> I was kind of hoping disabling D3cold would do that (prevent it from
> turning off power resources). But we can also just force it to use _DSM
> instead and see if it makes a difference.

Disabling d3cold that way might be too late due to the short RPM suspend
delay. You would need a udev rule to activate this ASAP. E.g., create
/etc/udev/rules.d/42-nvidia-rpm.rules with:

    SUBSYSTEM=="pci", ATTR{vendor}=="0x10de", ATTR{class}=="0x030000", ATTR{power/d3cold_allowed}="0"

This disables D3cold on the child device (which should also prevent the
parent PCIe port from using D3cold).

Alternatively, can you try to boot with nouveau.runpm=0 and see if it
makes any difference? When runpm is disabled, then the PCIe port and
Nvidia device should not be suspended and therefore prevent the issue
from being triggered.

> I guess the reason why keyboard and mouse become unresponsive is because
> the driver tries to resume the device and hogs the CPU. At least it
> looks like so from the dmesg in comment 27 (of the bugzilla bug) where
> NMI watchdog is triggered.
> 
> Since this might be related to nouveau, adding Peter Wu to the loop.
> Peter the bug in question is https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=190861.

Kilian, in the bug you had the issue with Firefox. The trace suggests
that runtime resume was triggered, so you should have this problem too
when using lspci. Can you try:

 1. Switch to a text console (e.g. Ctrl-Alt-F2).
 2. sleep 5; lspci

If that command does not return immediately, you likely have triggered
the same issue.

The acpidump from the bug does not show known issues, it *looks* fine.
There have been other issues related to resuming power on newer Nvidia
hardware (https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=94725,
https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=156341) but there is not
much progress here.  (The last time I traced the PCIe register accesses
(via kprobes) and tried to disable some of those, it still did not help
with preventing the power issue.)

> Kilian, can you try the following hack as well?
> 
> diff --git a/drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau/nouveau_acpi.c b/drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau/nouveau_acpi.c
> index 193573d191e5..50482d5c8072 100644
> --- a/drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau/nouveau_acpi.c
> +++ b/drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau/nouveau_acpi.c
> @@ -282,7 +282,7 @@ static void nouveau_dsm_pci_probe(struct pci_dev *pdev, acpi_handle *dhandle_out
>  			 (result & OPTIMUS_DYNAMIC_PWR_CAP) ? "dynamic power, " : "",
>  			 (result & OPTIMUS_HDA_CODEC_MASK) ? "hda bios codec supported" : "");
>  
> -		*has_pr3 = nouveau_pr3_present(pdev);
> +//		*has_pr3 = nouveau_pr3_present(pdev);
>  	}
>  }
>  

This would not disable D3cold support and as a result both PR3 and DSM
would be active. Try the above with this line added to force DSM:

    pci_d3cold_disable(pdev);

(This should have the same effect as setting d3cold_allowed=0.)
-- 
Kind regards,
Peter Wu
https://lekensteyn.nl

  reply	other threads:[~2017-01-03 15:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 115+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-12-27 23:57 PCI: Revert "PCI: Add runtime PM support for PCIe ports" Bjorn Helgaas
2016-12-28  9:17 ` Mika Westerberg
2016-12-28 11:29 ` Lukas Wunner
2016-12-28 16:18   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2016-12-29  9:58     ` Kilian Singer
2016-12-29 16:02       ` Kilian Singer
2016-12-29 16:20         ` Kilian Singer
2016-12-29 17:50           ` Lukas Wunner
2016-12-29 22:52             ` Kilian Singer
2016-12-29 23:02               ` Kilian Singer
2016-12-29 23:05                 ` Kilian Singer
2016-12-29 23:48               ` Lukas Wunner
2016-12-29 23:20             ` Kilian Singer
2016-12-30  0:07               ` Lukas Wunner
2016-12-30  0:16                 ` Kilian Singer
2016-12-30  0:24                   ` Kilian Singer
2016-12-30  0:22                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-12-30  0:39                       ` Kilian Singer
2016-12-30  0:41                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-12-30  0:45                       ` Kilian Singer
2016-12-30  1:40                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-12-30  1:50                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-12-30  1:52                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-12-30 13:37                               ` Kilian Singer
2016-12-30 13:59                                 ` Kilian Singer
2016-12-30 14:44                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-12-30 14:47                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-01-02 12:22                                   ` Mika Westerberg
2017-01-03 17:12                                     ` Kilian Singer
2017-01-02 11:40                   ` Lukas Wunner
2017-01-02 12:10                     ` Mika Westerberg
2017-01-02 13:53                       ` Mika Westerberg
2017-01-02 14:48                       ` Mika Westerberg
2017-01-02 21:31                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-01-03  9:51                           ` Mika Westerberg
2017-01-03 15:15                             ` Peter Wu [this message]
2017-01-03 16:11                               ` Lukas Wunner
2017-01-03 16:31                                 ` Peter Wu
2017-01-03 16:44                                   ` Deucher, Alexander
2017-01-03 18:09                                   ` Lukas Wunner
2017-01-03 18:12                                   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2017-01-03 21:38                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-01-03 21:52                                       ` Kilian Singer
2017-01-03 22:07                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-01-03 22:25                                           ` Kilian Singer
2017-01-03 22:25                                       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2017-01-03 23:13                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-01-04  0:05                                           ` Bjorn Helgaas
2017-01-04  1:09                                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-01-04  8:16                                             ` Lukas Wunner
2017-01-04 10:33                                               ` Kilian Singer
2017-01-04 12:29                                                 ` Mika Westerberg
2017-01-04 15:50                                               ` Deucher, Alexander
2017-01-04 21:09                                               ` Peter Wu
2017-01-04 21:58                                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-01-04 23:21                                                   ` David Airlie
2017-01-05 15:06                                                     ` Lukas Wunner
2017-01-05 18:13                                                       ` Peter Jones
2017-01-05 19:36                                                         ` David Airlie
2017-01-09 15:11                                                           ` Lyude Paul
2017-01-09 15:21                                                             ` Hans de Goede
2017-01-09 18:48                                                               ` Kilian Singer
2017-01-10  0:33                                                                 ` David Airlie
2017-01-10  9:17                                                                   ` Kilian Singer
2017-01-12 18:10                                                                     ` Lyude Paul
2017-01-24  4:59                                                                       ` Lukas Wunner
2017-01-24 19:09                                                                         ` Lyude Paul
2017-01-11 20:40                                                               ` Lyude Paul
2017-01-12  1:13                                                                 ` Lyude Paul
2017-01-12  2:04                                                                   ` Lyude Paul
2017-01-12  2:12                                                                     ` Lukas Wunner
2017-01-17 15:55                                                                       ` Mika Westerberg
2017-01-17 18:06                                                                         ` Lyude Paul
2017-01-17 19:10                                                                           ` Bjorn Helgaas
2017-01-17 19:49                                                                             ` Lyude Paul
2017-01-07 11:45                                                       ` Hans de Goede
2017-01-07 12:16                                                         ` Lukas Wunner
2017-01-09 23:00                                                         ` Peter Jones
2017-01-10  0:17                                                           ` David Airlie
2017-01-10  1:24                                                             ` Lukas Wunner
2017-01-10  2:15                                                               ` David Airlie
2017-01-11 11:04                                                       ` Hans de Goede
2017-01-11 13:24                                                         ` Kilian Singer
2017-01-11 13:26                                                           ` Hans de Goede
2017-01-11 16:24                                                             ` Peter Jones
2017-01-11 19:20                                                               ` Kilian Singer
2017-01-05 10:49                                                   ` Mika Westerberg
2017-01-05 14:19                                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-01-05 14:20                                                     ` Mika Westerberg
2017-01-05 14:23                                                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-01-05 14:42                                                 ` Lukas Wunner
2017-01-06  1:21                                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-01-07  6:50                                                     ` Mika Westerberg
2017-01-07 11:35                                                   ` Peter Wu
2017-01-07 12:19                                                     ` Lukas Wunner
2017-01-07 12:36                                                       ` Peter Wu
2017-01-08 14:05                                                         ` Lukas Wunner
2017-01-04 21:55                                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-01-03 21:26                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-01-03 17:37                               ` Kilian Singer
2017-01-03 17:10                       ` Kilian Singer
2017-01-03 16:59                     ` Kilian Singer
2017-01-03 17:08                     ` Kilian Singer
2016-12-30  0:19     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-12-30 14:48       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-01-17 14:56 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2017-01-17 15:49   ` Kilian Singer
2017-01-23 20:33   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2017-01-23 21:12     ` Mika Westerberg
2017-01-24  4:53       ` Lukas Wunner
2017-01-24 20:01       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2017-01-25  9:48         ` Mika Westerberg
2017-01-25 16:05           ` Kilian Singer
2017-01-25 16:31             ` Mika Westerberg
2017-01-25 17:58 ` Bjorn Helgaas

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