From: Peter Wu <peter@lekensteyn.nl>
To: Lukas Wunner <lukas@wunner.de>
Cc: Mika Westerberg <mika.westerberg@linux.intel.com>,
"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
Kilian Singer <kilian.singer@quantumtechnology.info>,
Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>,
linux-pci <linux-pci@vger.kernel.org>,
Alex Deucher <alexander.deucher@amd.com>,
Dave Airlie <airlied@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: PCI: Revert "PCI: Add runtime PM support for PCIe ports"
Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2017 17:31:30 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170103163130.GC9763@al> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170103161123.GA20915@wunner.de>
On Tue, Jan 03, 2017 at 05:11:23PM +0100, Lukas Wunner wrote:
> [cc += Dave Airlie:
>
> Dave, we're about to lose support for newer Optimus laptops which use
> _PR3 to cut power to the discrete GPU because Bjorn Helgaas has queued
> a commit on his for-linus branch to remove runtime PM for PCIe ports.
> This fixes a regression on Kilian Singer's laptop on which locking the
> screen breaks USB and PS/2 input devices: Mouse movements are still
> visible, but button or key presses no longer have any effect. The GPU
> is powered down upon locking the screen and the current theory is that
> this causes the issues.]
(+cc Alex: this might affect amdgpu/radeon too.]
Bjorn, please reconsider the rpm patch. Reverting support would
introduce other regressions (see issues below) and make future
Thunderbolt work harder (according to Lukas). If Kilian's laptop has
issues, what about a "temporary" quirk?
> On Tue, Jan 03, 2017 at 04:15:47PM +0100, Peter Wu wrote:
> > The acpidump from the bug does not show known issues, it *looks* fine.
> > There have been other issues related to resuming power on newer Nvidia
> > hardware (https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=94725,
> > https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=156341) but there is not
> > much progress here. (The last time I traced the PCIe register accesses
> > (via kprobes) and tried to disable some of those, it still did not help
> > with preventing the power issue.)
>
> It seems that the _DSM method works on Kilian's laptop. Would it be
> viable to default to _DSM if it's available, and only use _PR3 if not?
DSM should not be preferred when PR3 is available:
- After MS introduced D3cold (PR3) support to Win8+, vendors are
unlikely to test legacy DSM and the likelihood of breakage increases.
- On one Lenovo laptop, the DSM method causes memory corruption while
PR3 fixes this problem.
- On some laptops, DSM keeps the fan on while PR3 stopped the noise.
- On some laptops, DSM does not really power off the GPU and results in
increased power consumption during runtime/system sleep. PR3 fully
removes the power, as desired.
--
Kind regards,
Peter Wu
https://lekensteyn.nl
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-01-03 16:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 115+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-12-27 23:57 PCI: Revert "PCI: Add runtime PM support for PCIe ports" Bjorn Helgaas
2016-12-28 9:17 ` Mika Westerberg
2016-12-28 11:29 ` Lukas Wunner
2016-12-28 16:18 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2016-12-29 9:58 ` Kilian Singer
2016-12-29 16:02 ` Kilian Singer
2016-12-29 16:20 ` Kilian Singer
2016-12-29 17:50 ` Lukas Wunner
2016-12-29 22:52 ` Kilian Singer
2016-12-29 23:02 ` Kilian Singer
2016-12-29 23:05 ` Kilian Singer
2016-12-29 23:48 ` Lukas Wunner
2016-12-29 23:20 ` Kilian Singer
2016-12-30 0:07 ` Lukas Wunner
2016-12-30 0:16 ` Kilian Singer
2016-12-30 0:24 ` Kilian Singer
2016-12-30 0:22 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-12-30 0:39 ` Kilian Singer
2016-12-30 0:41 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-12-30 0:45 ` Kilian Singer
2016-12-30 1:40 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-12-30 1:50 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-12-30 1:52 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-12-30 13:37 ` Kilian Singer
2016-12-30 13:59 ` Kilian Singer
2016-12-30 14:44 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-12-30 14:47 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-01-02 12:22 ` Mika Westerberg
2017-01-03 17:12 ` Kilian Singer
2017-01-02 11:40 ` Lukas Wunner
2017-01-02 12:10 ` Mika Westerberg
2017-01-02 13:53 ` Mika Westerberg
2017-01-02 14:48 ` Mika Westerberg
2017-01-02 21:31 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-01-03 9:51 ` Mika Westerberg
2017-01-03 15:15 ` Peter Wu
2017-01-03 16:11 ` Lukas Wunner
2017-01-03 16:31 ` Peter Wu [this message]
2017-01-03 16:44 ` Deucher, Alexander
2017-01-03 18:09 ` Lukas Wunner
2017-01-03 18:12 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2017-01-03 21:38 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-01-03 21:52 ` Kilian Singer
2017-01-03 22:07 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-01-03 22:25 ` Kilian Singer
2017-01-03 22:25 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2017-01-03 23:13 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-01-04 0:05 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2017-01-04 1:09 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-01-04 8:16 ` Lukas Wunner
2017-01-04 10:33 ` Kilian Singer
2017-01-04 12:29 ` Mika Westerberg
2017-01-04 15:50 ` Deucher, Alexander
2017-01-04 21:09 ` Peter Wu
2017-01-04 21:58 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-01-04 23:21 ` David Airlie
2017-01-05 15:06 ` Lukas Wunner
2017-01-05 18:13 ` Peter Jones
2017-01-05 19:36 ` David Airlie
2017-01-09 15:11 ` Lyude Paul
2017-01-09 15:21 ` Hans de Goede
2017-01-09 18:48 ` Kilian Singer
2017-01-10 0:33 ` David Airlie
2017-01-10 9:17 ` Kilian Singer
2017-01-12 18:10 ` Lyude Paul
2017-01-24 4:59 ` Lukas Wunner
2017-01-24 19:09 ` Lyude Paul
2017-01-11 20:40 ` Lyude Paul
2017-01-12 1:13 ` Lyude Paul
2017-01-12 2:04 ` Lyude Paul
2017-01-12 2:12 ` Lukas Wunner
2017-01-17 15:55 ` Mika Westerberg
2017-01-17 18:06 ` Lyude Paul
2017-01-17 19:10 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2017-01-17 19:49 ` Lyude Paul
2017-01-07 11:45 ` Hans de Goede
2017-01-07 12:16 ` Lukas Wunner
2017-01-09 23:00 ` Peter Jones
2017-01-10 0:17 ` David Airlie
2017-01-10 1:24 ` Lukas Wunner
2017-01-10 2:15 ` David Airlie
2017-01-11 11:04 ` Hans de Goede
2017-01-11 13:24 ` Kilian Singer
2017-01-11 13:26 ` Hans de Goede
2017-01-11 16:24 ` Peter Jones
2017-01-11 19:20 ` Kilian Singer
2017-01-05 10:49 ` Mika Westerberg
2017-01-05 14:19 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-01-05 14:20 ` Mika Westerberg
2017-01-05 14:23 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-01-05 14:42 ` Lukas Wunner
2017-01-06 1:21 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-01-07 6:50 ` Mika Westerberg
2017-01-07 11:35 ` Peter Wu
2017-01-07 12:19 ` Lukas Wunner
2017-01-07 12:36 ` Peter Wu
2017-01-08 14:05 ` Lukas Wunner
2017-01-04 21:55 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-01-03 21:26 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-01-03 17:37 ` Kilian Singer
2017-01-03 17:10 ` Kilian Singer
2017-01-03 16:59 ` Kilian Singer
2017-01-03 17:08 ` Kilian Singer
2016-12-30 0:19 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-12-30 14:48 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-01-17 14:56 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2017-01-17 15:49 ` Kilian Singer
2017-01-23 20:33 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2017-01-23 21:12 ` Mika Westerberg
2017-01-24 4:53 ` Lukas Wunner
2017-01-24 20:01 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2017-01-25 9:48 ` Mika Westerberg
2017-01-25 16:05 ` Kilian Singer
2017-01-25 16:31 ` Mika Westerberg
2017-01-25 17:58 ` Bjorn Helgaas
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