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From: Keith Busch <keith.busch@intel.com>
To: Sinan Kaya <okaya@codeaurora.org>
Cc: Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>,
	Oza Pawandeep <poza@codeaurora.org>,
	Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	Philippe Ombredanne <pombredanne@nexb.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Kate Stewart <kstewart@linuxfoundation.org>,
	linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Dongdong Liu <liudongdong3@huawei.com>, Wei Zhang <wzhang@fb.com>,
	Timur Tabi <timur@codeaurora.org>,
	Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v13 6/6] PCI/DPC: Do not do recovery for hotplug enabled system
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2018 09:02:31 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180412150231.GD4810@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180412143954.GB4810@localhost.localdomain>

On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 08:39:54AM -0600, Keith Busch wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 10:34:37AM -0400, Sinan Kaya wrote:
> > On 4/12/2018 10:06 AM, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
> > > 
> > > I think the scenario you are describing is two systems that are
> > > identical except that in the first, the endpoint is below a hotplug
> > > bridge, while in the second, it's below a non-hotplug bridge.  There's
> > > no physical hotplug (no drive removed or inserted), and DPC is
> > > triggered in both systems.
> > > 
> > > I suggest that DPC should be handled identically in both systems:
> > > 
> > >   - The PCI core should have the same view of the endpoint: it should
> > >     be removed and re-added in both cases (or in neither case).
> > > 
> > >   - The endpoint itself should not be able to tell the difference: it
> > >     should see a link down event, followed by a link retrain, followed
> > >     by the same sequence of config accesses, etc.
> > > 
> > >   - The endpoint driver should not be able to tell the difference,
> > >     i.e., we should be calling the same pci_error_handlers callbacks
> > >     in both cases.
> > > 
> > > It's true that in the non-hotplug system, pciehp probably won't start
> > > re-enumeration, so we might need an alternate path to trigger that.
> > > 
> > > But that's not what we're doing in this patch.  In this patch we're
> > > adding a much bigger difference: for hotplug bridges, we stop and
> > > remove the hierarchy below the bridge; for non-hotplug bridges, we do
> > > the AER-style flow of calling pci_error_handlers callbacks.
> > 
> > Our approach on V12 was to go to AER style recovery for all DPC events
> > regardless of hotplug support or not. 
> > 
> > Keith was not comfortable with this approach. That's why, we special cased
> > hotplug.
> > 
> > If we drop 6/6 on this patch on v13, we achieve this. We still have to
> > take care of Keith's inputs on individual patches.
> > 
> > we have been struggling with the direction for a while.
> > 
> > Keith, what do you think?
> 
> My only concern was for existing production environments that use DPC
> for handling surprise removal, and I don't wish to break the existing
> uses.

Also, I thought the plan was to keep hotplug and non-hotplug the same,
except for the very end: if not a hotplug bridge, initiate the rescan
automatically after releasing from containment, otherwise let pciehp
handle it when the link reactivates.

  reply	other threads:[~2018-04-12 15:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-04-09 14:41 [PATCH v13 0/6] Address error and recovery for AER and DPC Oza Pawandeep
2018-04-09 14:41 ` [PATCH v13 1/6] PCI/AER: Rename error recovery to generic PCI naming Oza Pawandeep
2018-04-09 23:14   ` Keith Busch
2018-04-09 14:41 ` [PATCH v13 2/6] PCI/AER: Factor out error reporting from AER Oza Pawandeep
2018-04-09 23:15   ` Keith Busch
2018-04-10 11:36   ` kbuild test robot
2018-04-09 14:41 ` [PATCH v13 3/6] PCI/PORTDRV: Implement generic find service Oza Pawandeep
2018-04-09 23:15   ` Keith Busch
2018-04-09 14:41 ` [PATCH v13 4/6] PCI/DPC: Unify and plumb error handling into DPC Oza Pawandeep
2018-04-09 23:29   ` Keith Busch
2018-04-09 23:51     ` Sinan Kaya
2018-04-10  0:05       ` Sinan Kaya
2018-04-09 14:41 ` [PATCH v13 5/6] PCI: Unify wait for link active into generic PCI Oza Pawandeep
2018-04-09 23:25   ` Keith Busch
2018-04-12  8:40     ` poza
2018-04-09 14:41 ` [PATCH v13 6/6] PCI/DPC: Do not do recovery for hotplug enabled system Oza Pawandeep
2018-04-10 21:03   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2018-04-12  1:41     ` Sinan Kaya
2018-04-12 14:06       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2018-04-12 14:34         ` Sinan Kaya
2018-04-12 14:39           ` Keith Busch
2018-04-12 15:02             ` Keith Busch [this message]
2018-04-12 16:27               ` Sinan Kaya
2018-04-12 17:09                 ` Keith Busch
2018-04-12 17:41                   ` Sinan Kaya
2018-04-14 15:53                     ` Sinan Kaya
2018-04-16  3:17                       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2018-04-16  5:33                         ` poza
2018-04-16  5:51                           ` poza
2018-04-16 14:01                             ` Bjorn Helgaas
2018-04-16 14:46                         ` Sinan Kaya
2018-04-16 17:15                           ` poza
2018-04-16  3:16 ` [PATCH v13 0/6] Address error and recovery for AER and DPC Bjorn Helgaas
2018-04-16  3:53   ` Sinan Kaya
2018-04-16  6:03     ` poza
2018-04-16 13:27       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2018-04-16 14:12         ` poza
2018-04-16 14:30         ` Sinan Kaya

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