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From: Keith Busch <keith.busch@intel.com>
To: Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>
Cc: Linux PCI <linux-pci@vger.kernel.org>,
	Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
	Sinan Kaya <okaya@kernel.org>, Thomas Tai <thomas.tai@oracle.com>,
	poza@codeaurora.org, Lukas Wunner <lukas@wunner.de>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	Mika Westerberg <mika.westerberg@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCHv4 08/12] PCI: ERR: Always use the first downstream port
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2018 09:14:51 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20181001151450.GB22508@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180928232801.GB119911@bhelgaas-glaptop.roam.corp.google.com>

On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 06:28:02PM -0500, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 03:35:23PM -0600, Keith Busch wrote:
> > The assumption I'm making (which I think is a safe assumption with
> > general consensus) is that errors detected on an end point or an upstream
> > port happened because of something wrong with the link going upstream:
> > end devices have no other option, 
> 
> Is this really true?  It looks like "Internal Errors" (sec 6.2.9) may
> be unrelated to a packet or event (though they are supposed to be
> associated with a PCIe interface).
> 
> It says the only method of recovering is reset or hardware
> replacement.  It doesn't specify, but it seems like a FLR or similar
> reset might be appropriate and we may not have to reset the link.

That is an interesting case we might want to handle better. I've a couple
concerns to consider for implementing:

We don't know an ERR_FATAL occured for an internal reason until we read the
config register across the link, and the AER driver historically avoided
accessing potentially unhealthy links. I don't *think* it's harmful to
attempt reading the register, but we'd just need to check for an "all 1's"
completion before trusting the result.

The other issue with trying to use FLR is a device may not implement
it, so pci reset has fallback methods depending on the device's
capabilities. We can end up calling pci_parent_bus_reset(), which does the
same secondary bus reset that already happens as part of error recovery.
We'd just need to make sure affected devices and drivers have a chance
to be notified (which is the this patch's intention).
 
> Getting back to the changelog, "error handling can only run on
> bridges" clearly doesn't refer to the driver callbacks (since those
> only apply to endpoints).  Maybe "error handling" refers to the
> reset_link(), which can only be done on a bridge?

Yep, referring to how link reset_link is only sent from bridges.
 
> That would make sense to me, although the current code may be
> resetting more devices than necessary if Internal Errors can be
> handled without a link reset.

That sounds good, I'll test some scenarios out here.

  reply	other threads:[~2018-10-01 15:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-09-20 16:27 [PATCHv4 00/12] pci error handling fixes Keith Busch
2018-09-20 16:27 ` [PATCHv4 01/12] PCI: portdrv: Initialize service drivers directly Keith Busch
2018-09-20 16:27 ` [PATCHv4 02/12] PCI: portdrv: Restore pci state on slot reset Keith Busch
2018-09-20 16:27 ` [PATCHv4 03/12] PCI: DPC: Save and restore control state Keith Busch
2018-09-20 19:46   ` Sinan Kaya
2018-09-20 19:47     ` Sinan Kaya
2018-09-20 19:54       ` Keith Busch
2018-09-20 16:27 ` [PATCHv4 04/12] PCI: AER: Take reference on error devices Keith Busch
2018-09-20 16:27 ` [PATCHv4 05/12] PCI: AER: Don't read upstream ports below fatal errors Keith Busch
2018-09-20 16:27 ` [PATCHv4 06/12] PCI: ERR: Use slot reset if available Keith Busch
2018-09-20 16:27 ` [PATCHv4 07/12] PCI: ERR: Handle fatal error recovery Keith Busch
2018-09-20 16:27 ` [PATCHv4 08/12] PCI: ERR: Always use the first downstream port Keith Busch
2018-09-26 22:01   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2018-09-26 22:19     ` Keith Busch
2018-09-27 22:56       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2018-09-28 15:42         ` Keith Busch
2018-09-28 20:50           ` Bjorn Helgaas
2018-09-28 21:35             ` Keith Busch
2018-09-28 23:28               ` Bjorn Helgaas
2018-10-01 15:14                 ` Keith Busch [this message]
2018-10-02 19:35                   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2018-10-02 19:55                     ` Keith Busch
2018-09-20 16:27 ` [PATCHv4 09/12] PCI: ERR: Simplify broadcast callouts Keith Busch
2018-09-20 16:27 ` [PATCHv4 10/12] PCI: ERR: Report current recovery status for udev Keith Busch
2018-09-20 16:27 ` [PATCHv4 11/12] PCI: Unify device inaccessible Keith Busch
2018-09-20 16:27 ` [PATCHv4 12/12] PCI: Make link active reporting detection generic Keith Busch
2018-09-20 20:00 ` [PATCHv4 00/12] pci error handling fixes Sinan Kaya
2018-09-20 21:17 ` Bjorn Helgaas

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