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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Cc: Logan Gunthorpe <logang@deltatee.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>, Marc Zygnier <maz@kernel.org>,
	Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
	Kevin Tian <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
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	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
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	Allen Hubbe <allenbh@gmail.com>,
	linux-ntb@googlegroups.com, linux-s390@vger.kernel.org,
	Heiko Carstens <hca@linux.ibm.com>,
	Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>,
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	iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [patch 21/32] NTB/msi: Convert to msi_on_each_desc()
Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2021 09:00:23 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20211201130023.GH4670@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87mtlkaauo.ffs@tglx>

On Wed, Dec 01, 2021 at 11:16:47AM +0100, Thomas Gleixner wrote:

> Looking at the device slices as subdevices with their own struct device
> makes a lot of sense from the conceptual level.

Except IMS is not just for subdevices, it should be usable for any
driver in any case as a general interrupt mechiansm, as you alluded to
below about ethernet queues. ntb seems to be the current example of
this need..

If it works properly on the physical PCI dev there is no reason to try
to also make it work on the mdev and add complixity in iommu land.

> Though I fear there is also a use case for MSI-X and IMS tied to the
> same device. That network card you are talking about might end up using
> MSI-X for a control block and then IMS for the actual network queues
> when it is used as physical function device as a whole, but that's
> conceptually a different case.

Is it? Why?

IDXD is not so much making device "slices", but virtualizing and
sharing a PCI device. The IDXD hardware is multi-queue like the NIC I
described and the VFIO driver is simply allocating queues from a PCI
device for specific usages and assigning them interrupts.

There is already a char dev interface that equally allocates queues
from the same IDXD device, why shouldn't it be able to access IMS
interrupt pools too?

IMHO a well designed IDXD driver should put all the PCI MMIO, queue
mangement, interrupts, etc in the PCI driver layer, and the VFIO
driver layer should only deal with the MMIO trapping and VFIO
interfacing.

From this view it is conceptually wrong to have the VFIO driver
directly talking to MMIO registers in the PCI device or owning the
irq_chip. It would be very odd for the PCI driver to allocate
interrupts from some random external struct device when it is creating
queues on the PCI device.

> > Another view is the msi_domain_alloc_irqs() flows should have their
> > own xarrays..
> 
> Yes, I was thinking about that as well. The trivial way would be:
> 
>     struct xarray     store[MSI_MAX_STORES];
> 
> and then have a store index for each allocation domain. With the
> proposed encapsulation of the xarray handling that's definitely
> feasible. Whether that buys much is a different question. Let me think
> about it some more.

Any possibility that the 'IMS' xarray could be outside the struct
device?

Thanks,
Jason

  reply	other threads:[~2021-12-01 13:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 182+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-11-27  1:22 [patch 00/32] genirq/msi, PCI/MSI: Spring cleaning - Part 2 Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:22 ` [patch 01/32] genirq/msi: Move descriptor list to struct msi_device_data Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:23   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27 12:19   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-11-27  1:22 ` [patch 02/32] genirq/msi: Add mutex for MSI list protection Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:23   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:22 ` [patch 03/32] genirq/msi: Provide msi_domain_alloc/free_irqs_descs_locked() Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:23   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:22 ` [patch 04/32] genirq/msi: Provide a set of advanced MSI accessors and iterators Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:23   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-28  1:00   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-11-28 19:22     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-29  9:26       ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-29 14:01         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-11-29 14:46           ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:22 ` [patch 05/32] genirq/msi: Provide msi_alloc_msi_desc() and a simple allocator Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:23   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:22 ` [patch 06/32] genirq/msi: Provide domain flags to allocate/free MSI descriptors automatically Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:23   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:22 ` [patch 07/32] genirq/msi: Count the allocated MSI descriptors Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:23   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27 12:19   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-11-27 19:22     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27 19:45       ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-28 11:07         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-11-28 19:23           ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:22 ` [patch 08/32] PCI/MSI: Protect MSI operations Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:23   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:22 ` [patch 09/32] PCI/MSI: Use msi_add_msi_desc() Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:23   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:22 ` [patch 10/32] PCI/MSI: Let core code free MSI descriptors Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:23   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:22 ` [patch 11/32] PCI/MSI: Use msi_on_each_desc() Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:23   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:22 ` [patch 12/32] x86/pci/xen: Use msi_for_each_desc() Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:23   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:22 ` [patch 13/32] xen/pcifront: Rework MSI handling Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:23   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:22 ` [patch 14/32] s390/pci: Rework MSI descriptor walk Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:23   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-29 10:31   ` Niklas Schnelle
2021-11-29 13:04     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:22 ` [patch 15/32] powerpc/4xx/hsta: Rework MSI handling Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:23   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:22 ` [patch 16/32] powerpc/cell/axon_msi: Convert to msi_on_each_desc() Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:23   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:22 ` [patch 17/32] powerpc/pasemi/msi: Convert to msi_on_each_dec() Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:23   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:22 ` [patch 18/32] powerpc/fsl_msi: Use msi_for_each_desc() Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:23   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:22 ` [patch 19/32] powerpc/mpic_u3msi: Use msi_for_each-desc() Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:23   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:22 ` [patch 20/32] PCI: hv: Rework MSI handling Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:24   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:23 ` [patch 21/32] NTB/msi: Convert to msi_on_each_desc() Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:24   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-29 18:21   ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-11-29 20:51     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-29 22:27       ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-11-29 22:50         ` Dave Jiang
2021-11-29 23:31         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-11-29 23:52           ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-11-30  0:01             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-11-30  0:29         ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-30 19:21           ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-11-30 19:48             ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-30 20:14               ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-11-30 20:28               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-11-30 21:23                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-01  0:17                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-01 10:16                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-01 13:00                       ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2021-12-01 17:35                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-01 18:14                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-01 18:46                             ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-12-01 20:21                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-02  0:01                               ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-02 13:55                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-02 14:23                                   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-12-02 14:45                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-02 19:25                                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-02 20:00                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-02 22:31                                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-03  0:37                                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-03 15:07                                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-03 16:41                                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-04 14:20                                               ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-05 14:16                                                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-06 14:43                                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-06 15:47                                                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-06 17:00                                                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-06 20:28                                                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-06 21:06                                                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-06 22:21                                                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-06 14:19                                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-06 15:06                                                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-09  6:26                                               ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-09  9:03                                                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-09 12:17                                                   ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-09 15:57                                                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-10  7:37                                                       ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-09  5:41                                   ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-09  5:47                                     ` Jason Wang
2021-12-01 16:28                       ` Dave Jiang
2021-12-01 18:41                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-01 18:47                           ` Dave Jiang
2021-12-01 20:25                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-01 21:21                               ` Dave Jiang
2021-12-01 21:44                                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-01 21:49                                   ` Dave Jiang
2021-12-01 22:03                                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-01 22:53                                       ` Dave Jiang
2021-12-01 23:57                                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-09  5:23                                   ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-09  8:37                                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-09 12:31                                       ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-09 16:21                                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-09 20:32                                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-09 20:58                                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-09 22:09                                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-10  0:26                                               ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-10  7:29                                                 ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-10 12:13                                                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-11  8:06                                                     ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-10 12:39                                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-10 19:00                                                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-11  7:44                                                       ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-11 13:04                                                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-12  1:56                                                           ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-12 20:55                                                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-12 23:37                                                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-13  7:50                                                                 ` Tian, Kevin
2022-09-15  9:24                                                               ` Tian, Kevin
2022-09-20 14:09                                                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-21  7:57                                                                   ` Tian, Kevin
2022-09-21 12:48                                                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-22  5:11                                                                       ` Tian, Kevin
2022-09-22 12:13                                                                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-22 22:42                                                                           ` Tian, Kevin
2022-09-23 13:26                                                                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-11  7:52                                                     ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-12  0:12                                                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-12  2:14                                                         ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-12 20:50                                                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-12 23:42                                                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-10  7:36                                             ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-10 12:30                                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-12  6:44                                               ` Mika Penttilä
2021-12-12 23:27                                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-01 14:52                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-01 15:11                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-01 18:37                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-01 18:47                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-01 20:26                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:23 ` [patch 22/32] soc: ti: ti_sci_inta_msi: Rework MSI descriptor allocation Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:24   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:23 ` [patch 23/32] soc: ti: ti_sci_inta_msi: Remove ti_sci_inta_msi_domain_free_irqs() Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:24   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:23 ` [patch 24/32] bus: fsl-mc-msi: Simplify MSI descriptor handling Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:24   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:23 ` [patch 25/32] platform-msi: Let core code handle MSI descriptors Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:24   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:23 ` [patch 26/32] platform-msi: Simplify platform device MSI code Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:24   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:23 ` [patch 27/32] genirq/msi: Make interrupt allocation less convoluted Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:24   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:23 ` [patch 28/32] genirq/msi: Convert to new functions Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:24   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:23 ` [patch 29/32] genirq/msi: Mop up old interfaces Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:24   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:23 ` [patch 30/32] genirq/msi: Add abuse prevention comment to msi header Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:24   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:23 ` [patch 31/32] genirq/msi: Simplify sysfs handling Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:24   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27 12:32   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-11-27 19:31     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-28 11:07       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-11-28 19:33         ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:23 ` [patch 32/32] genirq/msi: Convert storage to xarray Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:24   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27 12:33   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-11-27  1:23 ` [patch 00/32] genirq/msi, PCI/MSI: Spring cleaning - Part 2 Thomas Gleixner

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