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From: Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>
To: Tyler Hicks <code@tyhicks.com>
Cc: Keith Busch <kbusch@kernel.org>,
	bhelgaas@google.com, linux-pci@vger.kernel.org,
	Zhiqiang Hou <Zhiqiang.Hou@nxp.com>,
	Lorenzo Pieralisi <lpieralisi@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] PCI: Align MPS to upstream bridge for SAFE and PERFORMANCE mode
Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2022 17:14:29 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20221103221429.GA47218@bhelgaas> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20221027225149.GA846989@bhelgaas>

On Thu, Oct 27, 2022 at 05:51:49PM -0500, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 25, 2022 at 12:07:47AM -0500, Tyler Hicks wrote:
> > On 2022-10-20 15:24:37, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:

> > I've been talking to the firmware folks on why SAFE mode was selected,
> > based on Keith's question from Wednesday. From what I've been told,
> > U-Boot doesn't seed the RP MPS with a value so the kernel sees a value
> > of 128 for p_mps in pci_configure_mps() when using the DEFAULT mode.
> > Apparently UEFI does seed the RP MPS but we don't get that with U-Boot.
> > Therefore, SAFE mode was selected to get an initial, tuned RP MPS value
> > set to 256.
> 
> Are there any devices below the RP at the time we set MPS=256?
> 
> > > A subsequent hot-add will do nothing in pci_configure_mps(), and
> > > pcie_bus_configure_settings() looks like it would set the RP and EP
> > > MPS to the minimum of the RP and EP MPS_Supported.
> > > 
> > > Is that what you see?  What would you like to see instead?
> > 
> > No, not quite. After hot-add, we see the EP MPS set to 128 with SAFE
> > mode even though the RP MPS is 256.
> 
> Can you add the relevant topology here so we can work through the
> concrete details?  Is the endpoint hot-added directly below a Root
> Port?  Or is there a switch involved?  What are the MPS_Supported
> values for all the devices?  If there's a switch in the picture, it
> looks like we currently restrict to 128, I think because it's possible
> an endpoint that can only do 128 may be added.

Ping?  I'd like to talk about a concrete scenario.  It's too hard for
me to imagine all the possible things that could go wrong.

I guess part of what's interesting here is that things work better
when firmware has already configured MPS?  It doesn't seem like we
should *depend* on firmware having done that.

Bjorn

  reply	other threads:[~2022-11-03 22:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-06-10 15:01 [PATCH] PCI: Align MPS to upstream bridge for SAFE and PERFORMANCE mode Zhiqiang Hou
2022-07-13 10:21 ` Z.Q. Hou
2022-08-26 15:49 ` Tyler Hicks
2022-09-14 14:41   ` Tyler Hicks
2022-10-13  3:48     ` Tyler Hicks
2022-10-19 18:25 ` Tyler Hicks
2022-10-19 18:30   ` Keith Busch
2022-10-20 20:24   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2022-10-25  5:07     ` Tyler Hicks
2022-10-27 22:51       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2022-11-03 22:14         ` Bjorn Helgaas [this message]
2022-11-09 23:41           ` Tyler Hicks (Microsoft)
2023-01-04  0:14             ` Tyler Hicks
2022-11-13 18:39     ` Z.Q. Hou

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