From: Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>
To: "Limonciello, Mario" <Mario.Limonciello@amd.com>
Cc: "Natikar, Basavaraj" <Basavaraj.Natikar@amd.com>,
"bhelgaas@google.com" <bhelgaas@google.com>,
"linux-pci@vger.kernel.org" <linux-pci@vger.kernel.org>,
"thomas@glanzmann.de" <thomas@glanzmann.de>,
"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] PCI: Add quirk to clear MSI-X
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2023 12:14:47 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230320171447.GA2293285@bhelgaas> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <MN0PR12MB61017F7AD76AC3E3C296E6D1E2809@MN0PR12MB6101.namprd12.prod.outlook.com>
[+cc Rafael for RESUME_EARLY quirk question]
On Mon, Mar 20, 2023 at 01:32:16AM +0000, Limonciello, Mario wrote:
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>
> > Sent: Friday, March 10, 2023 16:14
> > To: Limonciello, Mario <Mario.Limonciello@amd.com>
> > Cc: Natikar, Basavaraj <Basavaraj.Natikar@amd.com>; Natikar, Basavaraj
> > <Basavaraj.Natikar@amd.com>; bhelgaas@google.com; linux-
> > pci@vger.kernel.org; thomas@glanzmann.de
> > Subject: Re: [PATCH] PCI: Add quirk to clear MSI-X
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 09, 2023 at 06:57:38PM -0600, Mario Limonciello wrote:
> > > On 3/9/23 16:30, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Mar 09, 2023 at 12:32:41PM -0600, Limonciello, Mario wrote:
> > > > > On 3/9/2023 12:25, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
> > > > > ...
> > > >
> > > > > > > > https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/agd5f/linux/-
> > /commit/07494a25fc8881e122c242a46b5c53e0e4403139
> > > > > >
> > > > > > That nbio_v7.2.c patch and this patch don't look anything
> > > > > > alike. It looks like the nbio_v7.2.c patch might run
> > > > > > once? Could *this* be done once at enumeration-time, too?
> > > > >
> > > > > They don't look anything alike because they're attacking the
> > > > > problem from different angles.
> > > >
> > > > Why do we need different angles?
> > >
> > > The GPU driver approach only works if the GPU is enabled. If
> > > the GPU could never be disabled then it alone would be
> > > sufficient.
> > >
> > > > > The NBIO patch fixes the initialization value for the
> > > > > internal registers. This is what the BIOS "should" have
> > > > > done. When the internal registers are configured properly
> > > > > then the behavior the kernel expects works as well.
> > > > >
> > > > > The NBIO patch will run both at amdgpu startup as well as
> > > > > when resuming from suspend.
> > > >
> > > > If initializing something as BIOS should have done makes the
> > > > hardware work correctly, isn't once enough? Why does the NBIO
> > > > patch need to run at resume-time?
> > >
> > > During suspend some internal registers are in a power domain
> > > that the state will be lost. These are typically restored by
> > > the BIOS to the values defined in initialization tables before
> > > handing control back to the OS.
> >
> > I don't quite get this. I thought I read that if BIOS had
> > initialized the hardware correctly, a D0->D3hot->D0 transition
> > would work without any issues. Linux can do this with PMCSR
> > writes and BIOS isn't involved at all.
>
> During a suspend transition not all registers are powered. Firmware
> will capture some during the suspend transition and restore some of
> them for the resume transition, but it's up to the firmware whether
> this one is included.
>
> Furthermore most IP blocks in amdgpu typically initialize the same
> during both startup and resume to ensure that firmware couldn't have
> mucked with the expected golden state.
We're spending way more time on this than makes sense, but I do think
it's important that the commit log is accurate and makes sense even to
people who don't know the internals of the device.
It *sounds* like what's happening is:
- OS writes PMCSR to put device in D3hot
- BIOS traps D0->D3hot transition via something like SMI and
captures MSI-X state
- Device enters D3hot
- Device internal MSI-X state is lost
- BIOS traps D3hot->D0 transition via SMI
- Device enters D0
- BIOS restores MSI-X state
- OS resumes use of device
If that's what's happening, the fact that the device loses the
internal state in D3hot sounds like a *hardware* defect -- if you put
the device in a system without a BIOS, the D0->D3hot->D0 transitions
would not work as required by the PCIe spec.
We can call the fact that BIOS lacks the MSI-X save/restore a BIOS
defect, but the only reason BIOS would *need* that save/restore is
because of the underlying *hardware* defect.
If that's the case, I would expect a commit log something like this:
The AMD [1022:15b8] USB controller loses some internal functional
MSI-X context when transitioning from D0 to D3hot. BIOS normally
traps D0->D3hot and D3hot->D0 transitions so it can save and restore
that internal context, but some firmware in the field lacks this
workaround.
If MSI-X is enabled, toggle the PCI_MSIX_FLAGS_ENABLE bit when
resuming to D0, which resynchronizes the internal state that was
lost in D3hot.
Rafael, do we run the DECLARE_PCI_FIXUP_RESUME_EARLY quirks for *all*
D3hot->D0 transitions?
I'm concerned about places like pci_pm_reset(), where we do
D0->D3hot->D0 to do the reset. Or vfio_pm_config_write(), where it
looks like a guest could do that without running the quirk.
Current proposed patch is:
https://lore.kernel.org/r/ddbbfb50-24b6-202f-7452-c8959901c739@amd.com
Bjorn
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-03-20 17:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-03-06 7:23 [PATCH] PCI: Add quirk to clear MSI-X Basavaraj Natikar
2023-03-06 8:14 ` Thomas Glanzmann
2023-03-08 22:44 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2023-03-08 23:04 ` Limonciello, Mario
2023-03-09 7:34 ` Basavaraj Natikar
2023-03-09 18:25 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2023-03-09 18:32 ` Limonciello, Mario
2023-03-09 22:30 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2023-03-10 0:57 ` Mario Limonciello
2023-03-10 7:41 ` Basavaraj Natikar
2023-03-10 22:13 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2023-03-20 1:32 ` Limonciello, Mario
2023-03-20 17:14 ` Bjorn Helgaas [this message]
2023-03-20 17:20 ` Limonciello, Mario
2023-03-20 19:36 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2023-03-20 19:47 ` Limonciello, Mario
2023-03-20 21:30 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2023-03-20 21:37 ` Limonciello, Mario
2023-03-20 22:08 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2023-03-20 22:52 ` Mario Limonciello
2023-03-21 11:07 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2023-03-28 13:15 ` Basavaraj Natikar
2023-03-28 13:25 ` Limonciello, Mario
2023-03-28 17:42 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2023-03-10 7:22 ` Basavaraj Natikar
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