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From: Manivannan Sadhasivam <manivannan.sadhasivam@linaro.org>
To: Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>
Cc: "Mrinmay Sarkar" <quic_msarkar@quicinc.com>,
	andersson@kernel.org, krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org,
	conor+dt@kernel.org, konrad.dybcio@linaro.org, robh@kernel.org,
	quic_shazhuss@quicinc.com, quic_nitegupt@quicinc.com,
	quic_ramkri@quicinc.com, quic_nayiluri@quicinc.com,
	dmitry.baryshkov@linaro.org, quic_krichai@quicinc.com,
	quic_vbadigan@quicinc.com, quic_schintav@quicinc.com,
	"Lorenzo Pieralisi" <lpieralisi@kernel.org>,
	"Krzysztof Wilczyński" <kw@linux.com>,
	"Bjorn Helgaas" <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-pci@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 1/3] PCI: qcom: Enable cache coherency for SA8775P RC
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2024 22:44:12 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240228171412.GA21858@thinkpad> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240228150211.GA271700@bhelgaas>

On Wed, Feb 28, 2024 at 09:02:11AM -0600, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 28, 2024 at 06:34:11PM +0530, Mrinmay Sarkar wrote:
> > On 2/24/2024 4:24 AM, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
> > > On Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 07:33:38PM +0530, Mrinmay Sarkar wrote:
> > > > Due to some hardware changes, SA8775P has set the NO_SNOOP attribute
> > > > in its TLP for all the PCIe controllers. NO_SNOOP attribute when set,
> > > > the requester is indicating that there no cache coherency issues exit
> > > > for the addressed memory on the host i.e., memory is not cached. But
> > > > in reality, requester cannot assume this unless there is a complete
> > > > control/visibility over the addressed memory on the host.
> > > 
> > > Forgive my ignorance here.  It sounds like the cache coherency issue
> > > would refer to system memory, so the relevant No Snoop attribute would
> > > be in DMA transactions, i.e., Memory Reads or Writes initiated by PCIe
> > > Endpoints.  But it looks like this patch would affect TLPs initiated
> > > by the Root Complex, not those from Endpoints, so I'm confused about
> > > how this works.
> > > 
> > > If this were in the qcom-ep driver, it would make sense that setting
> > > No Snoop in the TLPs initiated by the Endpoint could be a problem, but
> > > that doesn't seem to be what this patch is concerned with.
> >
> > I think in multiprocessor system cache coherency issue might occur.
> > and RC as well needs to snoop cache to avoid coherency as it is not
> > enable by default.
> 
> My mental picture isn't detailed enough, so I'm still confused.  We're
> talking about TLPs initiated by the RC.  Normally these would be
> because a driver did a CPU load or store to a PCIe device MMIO space,
> not to system memory.
> 

Endpoint can expose its system memory as a BAR to the host. In that case, the
cache coherency issue would apply for TLPs originating from RC as well.

- Mani

> But I guess you're suggesting the RC can initiate a TLP with a system
> memory address?  And this TLP would be routed not to a Root Port or to
> downstream devices, but it would instead be kind of a loopback and be
> routed back up through the RC and maybe IOMMU, to system memory?
> 
> I would have expected accesses like this to be routed directly to
> system memory without ever reaching the PCIe RC.
> 
> > and we are enabling this feature for qcom-ep driver as well.
> > it is in patch2.
> > 
> > Thanks
> > Mrinmay
> > 
> > > > And worst case, if the memory is cached on the host, it may lead to
> > > > memory corruption issues. It should be noted that the caching of memory
> > > > on the host is not solely dependent on the NO_SNOOP attribute in TLP.
> > > > 
> > > > So to avoid the corruption, this patch overrides the NO_SNOOP attribute
> > > > by setting the PCIE_PARF_NO_SNOOP_OVERIDE register. This patch is not
> > > > needed for other upstream supported platforms since they do not set
> > > > NO_SNOOP attribute by default.
> > > > 
> > > > 8775 has IP version 1.34.0 so intruduce a new cfg(cfg_1_34_0) for this
> > > > platform. Assign enable_cache_snoop flag into struct qcom_pcie_cfg and
> > > > set it true in cfg_1_34_0 and enable cache snooping if this particular
> > > > flag is true.
> > > s/intruduce/introduce/
> > > 
> > > Bjorn

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  reply	other threads:[~2024-02-28 17:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-02-23 14:03 [PATCH v5 0/3] arm64: qcom: sa8775p: add cache coherency support for SA8775P Mrinmay Sarkar
2024-02-23 14:03 ` [PATCH v5 1/3] PCI: qcom: Enable cache coherency for SA8775P RC Mrinmay Sarkar
2024-02-23 22:54   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2024-02-28 13:04     ` Mrinmay Sarkar
2024-02-28 15:02       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2024-02-28 17:14         ` Manivannan Sadhasivam [this message]
2024-02-28 17:39           ` Bjorn Helgaas
2024-02-28 18:45             ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2024-02-28 19:34               ` Bjorn Helgaas
2024-03-04  6:00                 ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2024-03-04  6:07   ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2024-02-23 14:03 ` [PATCH v5 2/3] PCI: qcom-ep: Enable cache coherency for SA8775P EP Mrinmay Sarkar
2024-02-24  0:07   ` Konrad Dybcio
2024-02-28 13:06     ` Mrinmay Sarkar
2024-02-23 14:03 ` [PATCH v5 3/3] arm64: dts: qcom: sa8775p: Mark PCIe EP controller as cache coherent Mrinmay Sarkar
2024-02-24 10:19 ` [PATCH v5 0/3] arm64: qcom: sa8775p: add cache coherency support for SA8775P Krzysztof Kozlowski
2024-02-28 13:07   ` Mrinmay Sarkar
2024-02-28 14:02     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski

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