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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Shunsuke Mie <mie@igel.co.jp>
Cc: Manivannan Sadhasivam <mani@kernel.org>,
	linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, virtualization@lists.linux.dev,
	jasowang@redhat.com, xuanzhuo@linux.alibaba.com
Subject: Re: [RFC] Legacy Virtio Driver with Device Has Limited Memory Access
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2024 06:33:19 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240618061705-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CANXvt5psZAkEOJtxO250n6vjZTK7as-F-4qr1Rc3awZsmqWCpQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Jun 18, 2024 at 07:15:47PM +0900, Shunsuke Mie wrote:
> Thank you for your response.
> 
> 2024年6月18日(火) 18:47 Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com>:
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 18, 2024 at 08:41:09AM +0900, Shunsuke Mie wrote:
> > > Let's clarify the situation.
> > >
> > > The Virtio device and driver are not working properly due to a
> > > combination of the following reasons:
> > >
> > > 1. Regarding VIRTIO_F_ACCESS_PLATFORM:
> > > - The modern spec includes VIRTIO_F_ACCESS_PLATFORM, which allows
> > > Physical DMAC to be used.
> > > - This feature is not available in the legacy spec.
> >
> > ... because legacy drivers don't set it
> >
> > > 2. Regarding Virtio PCIe Capability:
> > > - The modern spec requires Virtio PCIe Capability.
> >
> > It's a PCI capability actually. People have been asking
> > about option to make it a pcie extended capability,
> > but no one did the spec, qemu and driver work, yet.
> >
> > > - In some environments, Virtio PCIe Capability cannot be provided.
> >
> > why not?
> PCIe Endpoint Controller chips are available from several vendors and allow
> software to describe the behavior of PCIe Endpoint functions. However, they
> offer only limited functionality. Specifically, while PCIe bus communication is
> programmable, PCIe Capabilities are fixed and cannot be made to show as
> virtio's.

Okay. So where could these structures live, if not in pci config?

-- 
MST


  reply	other threads:[~2024-06-18 10:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-05-16  4:38 [RFC] Legacy Virtio Driver with Device Has Limited Memory Access Shunsuke Mie
2024-05-16 12:59 ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2024-05-16 13:13   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-05-20 10:24   ` Shunsuke Mie
2024-05-30 15:07     ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2024-05-20 13:22   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-06-14  9:50     ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2024-06-17 23:41       ` Shunsuke Mie
2024-06-18  6:54         ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2024-06-18  9:47         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-06-18 10:15           ` Shunsuke Mie
2024-06-18 10:33             ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2024-06-18 10:40               ` Shunsuke Mie
2024-06-18 10:47                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-06-18 12:51                   ` Shunsuke Mie
2024-06-19  7:32                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-06-19  7:39                       ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2024-06-19  7:58                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-06-19  8:28                           ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2024-06-19  7:07         ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-06-18 10:09       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-05-30 16:43   ` Michael S. Tsirkin

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