From: Leon Romanovsky <leon@kernel.org>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Cc: "Jens Axboe" <axboe@kernel.dk>, "Jason Gunthorpe" <jgg@ziepe.ca>,
"Robin Murphy" <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
"Joerg Roedel" <joro@8bytes.org>, "Will Deacon" <will@kernel.org>,
"Keith Busch" <kbusch@kernel.org>,
"Zeng, Oak" <oak.zeng@intel.com>,
"Chaitanya Kulkarni" <kch@nvidia.com>,
"Sagi Grimberg" <sagi@grimberg.me>,
"Bjorn Helgaas" <bhelgaas@google.com>,
"Logan Gunthorpe" <logang@deltatee.com>,
"Yishai Hadas" <yishaih@nvidia.com>,
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"Kevin Tian" <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
"Alex Williamson" <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v1 00/18] Provide a new two step DMA API mapping API
Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2024 16:18:39 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240704131839.GD95824@unreal> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240704074855.GA26913@lst.de>
On Thu, Jul 04, 2024 at 09:48:56AM +0200, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 03, 2024 at 06:51:14PM +0300, Leon Romanovsky wrote:
> > If we put aside this issue, do you think that the proposed API is the right one?
>
> I haven't look at it in detail yet, but from a quick look there is a
> few things to note:
>
>
> 1) The amount of code needed in nvme worries me a bit. Now NVMe a messy
> driver due to the stupid PRPs vs just using SGLs, but needing a fair
> amount of extra boilerplate code in drivers is a bit of a warning sign.
> I plan to look into this to see if I can help on improving it, but for
> that I need a working version first.
Chaitanya is working on this and I'll join him to help on next Sunday,
after I'll return to the office from my sick leave/
>
>
> 2) The amount of seemingly unrelated global headers pulled into other
> global headers. Some of this might just be sloppiness, e.g. I can't
> see why dma-mapping.h would actually need iommu.h to start with,
> but pci.h in dma-map-ops.h is a no-go.
pci.h was pulled because I needed to call to pci_p2pdma_map_type()
in dma_can_use_iova().
>
> 3) which brings me to real layering violations. dev_is_untrusted and
> dev_use_swiotlb are DMA API internals, no way I'd ever want to expose
> them. dma-map-ops.h is a semi-internal header only for implementations
> of the dma ops (as very clearly documented at the top of that file),
> it must not be included by drivers. Same for swiotlb.h.
These item shouldn't worry you and will be changed in the final version.
They are outcome of patch "RDMA/umem: Prevent UMEM ODP creation with SWIOTLB".
https://lore.kernel.org/all/d18c454636bf3cfdba9b66b7cc794d713eadc4a5.1719909395.git.leon@kernel.org/
All HMM users need such "prevention" so it will be moved to a common place.
>
> Not quite as concerning, but doing an indirect call for each map
> through dma_map_ops in addition to the iommu ops is not every efficient.
> We've through for a while to allow direct calls to dma-iommu similar
> how we do direct calls to dma-direct from the core mapping.c code.
> This might be a good time to do that as a prep step for this work.
Sure, no problem, will start in parallel to work on this.
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-07-04 13:18 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-07-02 9:09 [RFC PATCH v1 00/18] Provide a new two step DMA API mapping API Leon Romanovsky
2024-07-02 9:09 ` [RFC PATCH v1 01/18] dma-mapping: query DMA memory type Leon Romanovsky
2024-07-02 9:09 ` [RFC PATCH v1 02/18] dma-mapping: provide an interface to allocate IOVA Leon Romanovsky
2024-07-02 9:09 ` [RFC PATCH v1 03/18] dma-mapping: check if IOVA can be used Leon Romanovsky
2024-07-02 9:09 ` [RFC PATCH v1 04/18] dma-mapping: implement link range API Leon Romanovsky
2024-07-02 9:09 ` [RFC PATCH v1 05/18] mm/hmm: let users to tag specific PFN with DMA mapped bit Leon Romanovsky
2024-07-02 9:09 ` [RFC PATCH v1 06/18] dma-mapping: provide callbacks to link/unlink HMM PFNs to specific IOVA Leon Romanovsky
2024-07-02 9:09 ` [RFC PATCH v1 07/18] iommu/dma: Provide an interface to allow preallocate IOVA Leon Romanovsky
2024-07-02 9:09 ` [RFC PATCH v1 08/18] iommu/dma: Implement link/unlink ranges callbacks Leon Romanovsky
2024-07-02 9:09 ` [RFC PATCH v1 09/18] RDMA/umem: Preallocate and cache IOVA for UMEM ODP Leon Romanovsky
2024-07-02 9:09 ` [RFC PATCH v1 10/18] RDMA/umem: Store ODP access mask information in PFN Leon Romanovsky
2024-07-02 9:09 ` [RFC PATCH v1 11/18] RDMA/core: Separate DMA mapping to caching IOVA and page linkage Leon Romanovsky
2024-07-02 9:09 ` [RFC PATCH v1 12/18] RDMA/umem: Prevent UMEM ODP creation with SWIOTLB Leon Romanovsky
2024-07-02 9:09 ` [RFC PATCH v1 13/18] vfio/mlx5: Explicitly use number of pages instead of allocated length Leon Romanovsky
2024-07-02 9:09 ` [RFC PATCH v1 14/18] vfio/mlx5: Rewrite create mkey flow to allow better code reuse Leon Romanovsky
2024-07-02 9:09 ` [RFC PATCH v1 15/18] vfio/mlx5: Explicitly store page list Leon Romanovsky
2024-07-02 9:09 ` [RFC PATCH v1 16/18] vfio/mlx5: Convert vfio to use DMA link API Leon Romanovsky
2024-07-02 9:09 ` [RFC PATCH v1 17/18] block: export helper to get segment max size Leon Romanovsky
2024-07-02 9:09 ` [RFC PATCH v1 18/18] nvme-pci: use new dma API Leon Romanovsky
2024-07-04 15:23 ` Robin Murphy
2024-07-04 17:16 ` Leon Romanovsky
2024-07-05 5:58 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-07-05 18:48 ` Leon Romanovsky
2024-07-06 6:08 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-07-03 5:42 ` [RFC PATCH v1 00/18] Provide a new two step DMA API mapping API Christoph Hellwig
2024-07-03 10:42 ` Zhu Yanjun
2024-07-03 10:52 ` Leon Romanovsky
2024-07-03 14:35 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-07-03 15:51 ` Leon Romanovsky
2024-07-04 7:48 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-07-04 13:18 ` Leon Romanovsky [this message]
2024-07-05 6:00 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-07-08 16:52 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-07-09 6:17 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-07-09 18:53 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-07-10 6:27 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-07-11 23:21 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-07-05 22:53 ` Chaitanya Kulkarni
2024-07-06 6:26 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-07-07 9:16 ` Leon Romanovsky
2024-07-07 12:45 ` Leon Romanovsky
2024-07-05 6:39 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-07-07 9:45 ` Leon Romanovsky
2024-07-08 23:57 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-07-09 6:20 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-07-09 19:03 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-07-10 6:22 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-07-11 23:29 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-07-12 4:54 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-07-12 12:42 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-07-13 5:24 ` Christoph Hellwig
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