From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
Cc: "Christoph Hellwig" <hch@lst.de>,
"Leon Romanovsky" <leon@kernel.org>,
"Jens Axboe" <axboe@kernel.dk>,
"Robin Murphy" <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v1 00/18] Provide a new two step DMA API mapping API
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2024 08:27:04 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240710062704.GA25953@lst.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240709185315.GM14050@ziepe.ca>
On Tue, Jul 09, 2024 at 03:53:15PM -0300, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > That whole thing of course opens the question if we want a pure
> > in-memory version of the dma_addr_t/len tuple. IMHO that is the best
> > way to migrate and allows to share code easily. We can look into ways
> > to avoiding that more for drivers that care, but most drivers are
> > probably best serve with it to keep the code simple and make the
> > conversion easier.
>
> My feeling has been that this RFC is the low level interface and we
> can bring our own data structure on top.
>
> It would probably make sense to build a scatterlist v2 on top of this
> that has an in-memory dma_addr_t/len list close to today
Yes, the usage of the dma_vec would be in a higher layer. But I'd
really like to see it from the beginning.
> . Yes it costs
> a memory allocation, or a larger initial allocation, but many places
> may not really care. Block drivers have always allocated a SGL, for
> instance.
Except for those optimizing for snall transfer of a single segment
(like nvme).
> My main take away was that we should make the dma_ops interface
> simpler and more general so we can have this choice instead of welding
> a single datastructure through everything.
Yes, I don't think the dma_vec should be the low-level interface.
I think a low-level interface based on physical address is the right
one. I'll see what I can do to move the single segment map interface
to be physical address based instead of page based so that we can
unify them.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-07-10 6:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-07-02 9:09 [RFC PATCH v1 00/18] Provide a new two step DMA API mapping API Leon Romanovsky
2024-07-02 9:09 ` [RFC PATCH v1 01/18] dma-mapping: query DMA memory type Leon Romanovsky
2024-07-02 9:09 ` [RFC PATCH v1 02/18] dma-mapping: provide an interface to allocate IOVA Leon Romanovsky
2024-07-02 9:09 ` [RFC PATCH v1 03/18] dma-mapping: check if IOVA can be used Leon Romanovsky
2024-07-02 9:09 ` [RFC PATCH v1 04/18] dma-mapping: implement link range API Leon Romanovsky
2024-07-02 9:09 ` [RFC PATCH v1 05/18] mm/hmm: let users to tag specific PFN with DMA mapped bit Leon Romanovsky
2024-07-02 9:09 ` [RFC PATCH v1 06/18] dma-mapping: provide callbacks to link/unlink HMM PFNs to specific IOVA Leon Romanovsky
2024-07-02 9:09 ` [RFC PATCH v1 07/18] iommu/dma: Provide an interface to allow preallocate IOVA Leon Romanovsky
2024-07-02 9:09 ` [RFC PATCH v1 08/18] iommu/dma: Implement link/unlink ranges callbacks Leon Romanovsky
2024-07-02 9:09 ` [RFC PATCH v1 09/18] RDMA/umem: Preallocate and cache IOVA for UMEM ODP Leon Romanovsky
2024-07-02 9:09 ` [RFC PATCH v1 10/18] RDMA/umem: Store ODP access mask information in PFN Leon Romanovsky
2024-07-02 9:09 ` [RFC PATCH v1 11/18] RDMA/core: Separate DMA mapping to caching IOVA and page linkage Leon Romanovsky
2024-07-02 9:09 ` [RFC PATCH v1 12/18] RDMA/umem: Prevent UMEM ODP creation with SWIOTLB Leon Romanovsky
2024-07-02 9:09 ` [RFC PATCH v1 13/18] vfio/mlx5: Explicitly use number of pages instead of allocated length Leon Romanovsky
2024-07-02 9:09 ` [RFC PATCH v1 14/18] vfio/mlx5: Rewrite create mkey flow to allow better code reuse Leon Romanovsky
2024-07-02 9:09 ` [RFC PATCH v1 15/18] vfio/mlx5: Explicitly store page list Leon Romanovsky
2024-07-02 9:09 ` [RFC PATCH v1 16/18] vfio/mlx5: Convert vfio to use DMA link API Leon Romanovsky
2024-07-02 9:09 ` [RFC PATCH v1 17/18] block: export helper to get segment max size Leon Romanovsky
2024-07-02 9:09 ` [RFC PATCH v1 18/18] nvme-pci: use new dma API Leon Romanovsky
2024-07-04 15:23 ` Robin Murphy
2024-07-04 17:16 ` Leon Romanovsky
2024-07-05 5:58 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-07-05 18:48 ` Leon Romanovsky
2024-07-06 6:08 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-07-03 5:42 ` [RFC PATCH v1 00/18] Provide a new two step DMA API mapping API Christoph Hellwig
2024-07-03 10:42 ` Zhu Yanjun
2024-07-03 10:52 ` Leon Romanovsky
2024-07-03 14:35 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-07-03 15:51 ` Leon Romanovsky
2024-07-04 7:48 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-07-04 13:18 ` Leon Romanovsky
2024-07-05 6:00 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-07-08 16:52 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-07-09 6:17 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-07-09 18:53 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-07-10 6:27 ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2024-07-11 23:21 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-07-05 22:53 ` Chaitanya Kulkarni
2024-07-06 6:26 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-07-07 9:16 ` Leon Romanovsky
2024-07-07 12:45 ` Leon Romanovsky
2024-07-05 6:39 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-07-07 9:45 ` Leon Romanovsky
2024-07-08 23:57 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-07-09 6:20 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-07-09 19:03 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-07-10 6:22 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-07-11 23:29 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-07-12 4:54 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-07-12 12:42 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-07-13 5:24 ` Christoph Hellwig
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