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From: Nirmal Patel <nirmal.patel@linux.intel.com>
To: Manivannan Sadhasivam <manivannan.sadhasivam@linaro.org>
Cc: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, paul.m.stillwell.jr@intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] PCI: vmd: Clear PCI_INTERRUPT_LINE for VMD sub-devices
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2024 09:02:27 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240913090227.00001ada@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240913105541.x3ccu34z5yqatmvq@thinkpad>

On Fri, 13 Sep 2024 16:25:41 +0530
Manivannan Sadhasivam <manivannan.sadhasivam@linaro.org> wrote:

> On Thu, Sep 12, 2024 at 05:01:57PM -0700, Dan Williams wrote:
> > Nirmal Patel wrote:  
> > > On Thu, 12 Sep 2024 11:10:21 -0700
> > > Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com> wrote:
> > >   
> > > > Manivannan Sadhasivam wrote:
> > > > [..]  
> > > > > I don't think the issue should be constrained to VMD only.
> > > > > Based on my conversation with Nirmal [1], I understood that
> > > > > it is SPDK that makes wrong assumption if the device's
> > > > > PCI_INTERRUPT_LINE is non-zero (and I assumed that other
> > > > > application could do the same).    
> > > > 
> > > > I am skeptical one can find an example of an application that
> > > > gets similarly confused. SPDK is not a typical consumer of PCI
> > > > device information.
> > > >   
> > > > > In that case, how it can be classified as the "idiosyncracy"
> > > > > of VMD?    
> > > > 
> > > > If VMD were a typical PCIe switch, firmware would have already
> > > > fixed up these values. In fact this problem could likely also
> > > > be fixed in platform firmware, but the history of VMD is to
> > > > leak workaround after workaround into the kernel.  
> > > 
> > > This is not VMD leaking workaround in kernel, rather the patch is
> > > trying to keep fix limited to VMD driver.  
> > 
> > Oh, ok, I see that now, however...
> >   
> > > I tried over 10 different NVMes and only 1 vendor has
> > > PCI_INTERRUPT_LINE register set to 0xFF.  The platform firmware
> > > doesn't change that with or without VMD.  
> > 
> > ...SPDK is still asserting that it wants to be the NVME host driver
> > in userspace. As part of that it gets to keep all the pieces and
> > must realize that a device that has MSI/-X enabled is not using INTx
> > regardless of that register value.
> > 
> > Do not force the kernel to abide by SPDK expectations when the PCI
> > core / Linux-NVME driver contract does not need the
> > PCI_INTERRUPT_LINE cleared. If SPDK is taking over NVME, it gets to
> > take over *all* of it.  
> 
> In that case, we do not need a fix at all (even for VMD). My initial
> assumption was that, some other userspace applications may also
> behave the same way as SPDK. But I agree with you that unless we hear
> about them, it doesn't warrant a fix in the kernel. Thanks!

Okay, We can drop this patch for now. Thanks.
> 
> - Mani
> 


      reply	other threads:[~2024-09-13 16:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-08-20 22:32 [PATCH v2] PCI: vmd: Clear PCI_INTERRUPT_LINE for VMD sub-devices Nirmal Patel
2024-08-22  9:48 ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2024-08-22 18:30   ` Nirmal Patel
2024-09-12 14:36     ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2024-09-12 15:31       ` Nirmal Patel
2024-09-12 16:47         ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2024-09-12 17:11       ` Dan Williams
2024-09-12 17:25         ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2024-09-12 18:10           ` Dan Williams
2024-09-12 19:15             ` Nirmal Patel
2024-09-13  0:01               ` Dan Williams
2024-09-13 10:55                 ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2024-09-13 16:02                   ` Nirmal Patel [this message]

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