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From: Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>
To: "Ville Syrjälä" <ville.syrjala@linux.intel.com>
Cc: intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org,
	Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	Rodrigo Vivi <rodrigo.vivi@intel.com>,
	linux-pci@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/6] PCI/PM: Respect pci_dev->skip_bus_pm in the .poweroff() path
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2024 14:50:09 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240930195009.GA188032@bhelgaas> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZvWFxLZwRWL3DCeX@intel.com>

On Thu, Sep 26, 2024 at 07:03:16PM +0300, Ville Syrjälä wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 25, 2024 at 02:28:42PM -0500, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
> > On Wed, Sep 25, 2024 at 05:45:21PM +0300, Ville Syrjala wrote:
> > > From: Ville Syrjälä <ville.syrjala@linux.intel.com>
> > > 
> > > On some older laptops i915 needs to leave the GPU in
> > > D0 when hibernating the system, or else the BIOS
> > > hangs somewhere. Currently that is achieved by calling
> > > pci_save_state() ahead of time, which then skips the
> > > whole pci_prepare_to_sleep() stuff.

> > If there's a general requirement to leave all devices in D0 when
> > hibernating, it would be nice to have have some documentation like an
> > ACPI spec reference.
> 
> No, IIRC the ACPI spec even says that you must (or at least
> should) put devices into D3. But the buggy BIOS on some old
> laptops keels over when you do that. Hence we need this quirk.

Can we include a reference to this part of the ACPI spec and some
details on which laptops have this issue?

I'm a little bit wary of changing the PCI core in a generic-looking
way on the basis of some unspecified buggy old BIOS.  That feels like
something we're likely to break in the future.

> > Or if this is some i915-specific thing, maybe a pointer to history
> > like a lore or bugzilla reference.
> 
> The two relevant commits I can find are:
> 
> commit 54875571bbfd ("drm/i915: apply the PCI_D0/D3 hibernation
> workaround everywhere on pre GEN6")
> commit ab3be73fa7b4 ("drm/i915: gen4: work around hang during
> hibernation")

Thanks, this feels like important history to include somewhere.

> > IIUC this is a cleanup that doesn't fix any known problem?  The
> > overall diffstat doesn't make it look like a simplification, although
> > it might certainly be cleaner somehow:
> 
> My main concern is that using pci_save_state() might cause the pci
> code to deviate from the normal path in more ways than just skipping
> the D0->D3 transition. And then we might end up constantly chasing
> after driver/pci changes in order to match its behaviour.
> 
> Not to mention that having the pci_save_state() in the driver code
> is clearly confusing a bunch of our developers.

I'm all in favor of removing pci_save_state() from drivers when
possible.  I take it that this doesn't fix a functional issue.

Bjorn

  reply	other threads:[~2024-09-30 19:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-09-25 14:45 [PATCH 0/6] drm/i915/pm: Clean up the hibernate vs. PCI D3 quirk Ville Syrjala
2024-09-25 14:45 ` [PATCH 1/6] PCI/PM: Respect pci_dev->skip_bus_pm in the .poweroff() path Ville Syrjala
2024-09-25 19:28   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2024-09-26 16:03     ` Ville Syrjälä
2024-09-30 19:50       ` Bjorn Helgaas [this message]
2024-10-01 13:12         ` Ville Syrjälä
2024-10-23 15:31     ` Ville Syrjälä
2024-09-25 14:45 ` [PATCH 2/6] drm/i915/pm: Hoist pci_save_state()+pci_set_power_state() to the end of pm _late() hook Ville Syrjala
2024-09-26 14:43   ` Rodrigo Vivi
2024-09-26 15:41     ` Ville Syrjälä
2024-09-26 16:40       ` Rodrigo Vivi
2024-09-25 14:45 ` [PATCH 3/6] drm/i915/pm: Simplify pm hook documentation Ville Syrjala
2024-09-26 14:45   ` Rodrigo Vivi
2024-09-26 15:38     ` Ville Syrjälä
2024-09-26 16:10       ` Rodrigo Vivi
2024-09-25 14:45 ` [PATCH 4/6] drm/i915/pm: Move the hibernate+D3 quirk stuff into noirq() pm hooks Ville Syrjala
2024-09-25 19:28   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2024-09-25 14:45 ` [PATCH 5/6] drm/i915/pm: Do pci_restore_state() in switcheroo resume hook Ville Syrjala
2024-09-26 14:48   ` Rodrigo Vivi
2024-09-26 15:36     ` Ville Syrjälä
2024-09-26 16:27       ` Rodrigo Vivi
2024-09-25 14:45 ` [PATCH 6/6] drm/i915/pm: Use pci_dev->skip_bus_pm for hibernate vs. D3 workaround Ville Syrjala
2024-09-25 19:28   ` Bjorn Helgaas

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