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From: Manivannan Sadhasivam <manivannan.sadhasivam@linaro.org>
To: Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>
Cc: "Johan Hovold" <johan@kernel.org>,
	"Bjorn Helgaas" <helgaas@kernel.org>,
	"Pali Rohár" <pali@kernel.org>,
	"Johan Hovold" <johan+linaro@kernel.org>,
	"Kishon Vijay Abraham I" <kishon@ti.com>,
	"Xiaowei Song" <songxiaowei@hisilicon.com>,
	"Binghui Wang" <wangbinghui@hisilicon.com>,
	"Thierry Reding" <thierry.reding@gmail.com>,
	"Ryder Lee" <ryder.lee@mediatek.com>,
	"Jianjun Wang" <jianjun.wang@mediatek.com>,
	linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, "Krzysztof Wilczyński" <kw@linux.com>,
	"Ley Foon Tan" <ley.foon.tan@intel.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Why set .suppress_bind_attrs even though .remove() implemented?
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2024 15:00:40 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20241017093040.k6pefhmfdmw4nicz@thinkpad> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86r08f3yj1.wl-maz@kernel.org>

On Thu, Oct 17, 2024 at 09:48:50AM +0100, Marc Zyngier wrote:
> On Thu, 17 Oct 2024 09:25:26 +0100,
> Manivannan Sadhasivam <manivannan.sadhasivam@linaro.org> wrote:
> > 
> > On Thu, Oct 17, 2024 at 08:50:11AM +0100, Marc Zyngier wrote:
> > > On Thu, 17 Oct 2024 06:23:35 +0100,
> > > Manivannan Sadhasivam <manivannan.sadhasivam@linaro.org> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > So can we proceed with the series making Qcom driver modular?
> > > 
> > > Who is volunteering to fix the drivers that will invariably explode
> > > once we allow this?
> > > 
> > 
> > Why should anyone volunteer first up? If the issue gets reported for a driver
> > blowing up, then the driver has to be fixed by the maintainer or someone, just
> > like any other bug.
> 
> You are introducing a new behaviour, and decide that it is fair game
> to delegate the problems *you* introduced to someone else?
>

You are getting it completely wrong. I'm not delegating any issues. If the so
called *new* behavior in the controller driver uncovers the bug in a client
driver, then that is not called *delegating*.

> Maybe you should reconsider what it means to be a *responsible*
> maintainer.
> 

Sure, by not providing a development option useful to the users envisioning
issues that may not happen at all.

Even if any issue reported for the platform I'm maintaining, I am willing to put
in the efforts to fix them.

> > From reading the thread, the major concern was disposing the IRQs before
> > removing the domain and that is now taken care of. If you are worrying about a
> > specific issue, please say so.
> 
> That concern still exists, and I haven't seen a *consistent* approach
> encompassing all of the PCI controllers. What I've seen is a bunch of
> point hacks addressing a local issue on a particular implementation.
> 

Again, please be specific about your concern so that someone could try to
address them. Right now all I'm hearing is, "hey don't do this, else
something may blow up".

> I don't think that's the correct approach, but hey, what do I
> understand about interrupts and kernel maintenance?
> 

I'd like to quote the message in your signature here: "Without deviation from
the norm, progress is not possible".

> > 
> > As a Qcom PCIe driver maintainer, I'd like to provide users/developers the
> > flexibility to remove the driver for development purposes.
> 
> Sure, whatever.
>

Thanks!

- Mani

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  reply	other threads:[~2024-10-17  9:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-07-21 19:54 Why set .suppress_bind_attrs even though .remove() implemented? Bjorn Helgaas
2022-07-21 20:46 ` Pali Rohár
2022-07-21 20:48   ` Conor.Dooley
2022-07-21 22:21   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2022-07-21 22:48     ` Pali Rohár
2022-07-22 13:26     ` Johan Hovold
2022-07-22 14:38       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2022-07-25 13:25         ` Johan Hovold
2022-07-25 14:43           ` Marc Zyngier
2022-07-25 15:18             ` Johan Hovold
2022-07-25 17:35               ` Marc Zyngier
2022-07-26  9:56                 ` Johan Hovold
2022-07-27 19:57                   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2022-07-28 12:17                     ` Johan Hovold
2024-10-17  5:23                       ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2024-10-17  7:50                         ` Marc Zyngier
2024-10-17  8:25                           ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2024-10-17  8:48                             ` Marc Zyngier
2024-10-17  9:30                               ` Manivannan Sadhasivam [this message]
2024-10-17  9:56                                 ` Marc Zyngier
2022-09-27 15:27                 ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2022-09-28  6:36                   ` Johan Hovold
2022-07-22 14:39     ` Bjorn Helgaas
2022-07-22 17:06       ` Marc Zyngier
2022-07-22 17:17         ` Bjorn Helgaas
2022-07-24  9:38           ` Marc Zyngier
2022-07-25 20:18             ` Florian Fainelli
2022-07-25 17:49         ` Conor.Dooley
2022-07-26  7:26           ` Marc Zyngier

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