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From: Manivannan Sadhasivam <manivannan.sadhasivam@linaro.org>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson@linaro.org>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>,
	kbusch@kernel.org, axboe@kernel.dk, sagi@grimberg.me,
	linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, andersson@kernel.org,
	konradybcio@kernel.org, Len Brown <len.brown@intel.com>,
	linux-pm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] nvme-pci: Shutdown the device if D3Cold is allowed by the user
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2024 22:18:30 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20241216164830.36lpu6gfnapsdar4@thinkpad> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJZ5v0g8CdGgWA7e6TXpUjYNkU1zX46Rz3ELiun42MayoN0osA@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Dec 16, 2024 at 05:42:30PM +0100, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 16, 2024 at 5:23 PM Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de> wrote:
> >
> > On Sat, Dec 14, 2024 at 12:00:23PM +0530, Manivannan Sadhasivam wrote:
> > > We need a PM core API that tells the device drivers when it is safe to powerdown
> > > the devices. The usecase here is with PCIe based NVMe devices but the problem is
> > > applicable to other devices as well.
> >
> > Maybe I'm misunderstanding things, but I think the important part is
> > to indicate when a suspend actually MUST put the device into D3.  Because
> > doing that should always be safe, but not always optimal.
> 
> I'm not aware of any cases when a device must be put into D3cold
> (which I think is what you mean) during system-wide suspend.
> 
> Suspend-to-idle on x86 doesn't require this, at least not for
> correctness.  I don't think any platforms using DT require it either.
> 

On suspend-to-idle, yes D3Cold doesn't make sense, but on suspend-to-ram it is
pretty much required. That applies to DT as well.

- Mani

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  reply	other threads:[~2024-12-16 16:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-11-18  8:23 [PATCH] nvme-pci: Shutdown the device if D3Cold is allowed by the user Manivannan Sadhasivam
2024-11-18 12:58 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-11-18 14:58   ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2024-11-22 22:20 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2024-11-23  9:01   ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2024-11-26 17:11     ` Bjorn Andersson
2024-11-27  5:49       ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2024-12-05 23:29     ` Bjorn Helgaas
2024-12-06  1:49       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2024-12-09 13:36         ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-09 14:38           ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2024-12-12  5:59             ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-12 12:21               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2024-12-12 12:49                 ` Ulf Hansson
2024-12-12 15:13                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-13 14:35                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2024-12-14  6:30                       ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2024-12-16 16:23                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-16 16:42                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2024-12-16 16:48                             ` Manivannan Sadhasivam [this message]
2024-12-16 17:28                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2024-12-16 17:39                                 ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2024-12-16 19:10                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2024-12-20 15:15                             ` Konrad Dybcio
2024-12-21  3:38                               ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2024-12-21 11:17                                 ` Konrad Dybcio
2024-12-26 16:22                                   ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2025-01-03  7:28                               ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-01-03 11:48                                 ` Konrad Dybcio
2024-12-16 16:24                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2024-12-16 17:11                           ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2024-12-16 17:35                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2024-12-16 17:52                               ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2024-12-16 19:34                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2024-12-16 19:40                                   ` Keith Busch
2024-12-16 19:43                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2024-12-17  5:26                                   ` manivannan.sadhasivam
2024-12-17 19:45                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2024-12-19  8:02                                       ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2024-12-19 12:45                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2024-12-19 16:41                                           ` Ulf Hansson
2024-12-19 18:28                                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2025-01-03  7:26                                               ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-19  6:30                                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-19  8:03                                   ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2024-12-09 14:43         ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2024-12-09 14:57       ` Manivannan Sadhasivam

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