From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
To: Konrad Dybcio <konrad.dybcio@oss.qualcomm.com>
Cc: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
Manivannan Sadhasivam <manivannan.sadhasivam@linaro.org>,
Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson@linaro.org>,
"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>,
kbusch@kernel.org, axboe@kernel.dk, sagi@grimberg.me,
linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, andersson@kernel.org,
konradybcio@kernel.org, Len Brown <len.brown@intel.com>,
linux-pm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] nvme-pci: Shutdown the device if D3Cold is allowed by the user
Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2025 08:28:05 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250103072805.GB28920@lst.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <dd557897-f2e0-4347-ae67-27cd45920159@oss.qualcomm.com>
On Fri, Dec 20, 2024 at 04:15:21PM +0100, Konrad Dybcio wrote:
> The Qualcomm platform (or class of platforms) we're looking at with this
> specific issue requires PCIe (implying NVMe) shutdown for S2RAM.
>
> The S2RAM entry mechanism is unfortunately misrepresented as an S2Idle
> state by Linux as of today, and I'm trying really hard to convince some
> folks to let me describe it correctly, with little success so far..
Well, not advertizing the right mechanism isn't going to cause havoc
to any scheme.
> That is the real underlying issue and once/if it's solved, this patch
> will not be necessary.
Well, maybe this thread gave good enough fodder to finally fix it?
>
> > In theory, ACPI S3 or hibernation may request that, but I've never
> > seen it happen in practice.
> >
> > Suspend-to-idle on x86 may want devices to end up in specific power
> > states in order to be able to switch the entire platform into a deep
> > energy-saving mode, but that's never been D3cold so far.
>
> In our case the plug is only pulled in S2RAM, otherwise the best we can
> do is just turn off the devices individually to decrease the overall
> power draw
FYI, going to D3 for S2RAM seems perfectly reasonable from the NVMe POV.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-01-03 7:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-11-18 8:23 [PATCH] nvme-pci: Shutdown the device if D3Cold is allowed by the user Manivannan Sadhasivam
2024-11-18 12:58 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-11-18 14:58 ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2024-11-22 22:20 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2024-11-23 9:01 ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2024-11-26 17:11 ` Bjorn Andersson
2024-11-27 5:49 ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2024-12-05 23:29 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2024-12-06 1:49 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2024-12-09 13:36 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-09 14:38 ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2024-12-12 5:59 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-12 12:21 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2024-12-12 12:49 ` Ulf Hansson
2024-12-12 15:13 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-13 14:35 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2024-12-14 6:30 ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2024-12-16 16:23 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-16 16:42 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2024-12-16 16:48 ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2024-12-16 17:28 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2024-12-16 17:39 ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2024-12-16 19:10 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2024-12-20 15:15 ` Konrad Dybcio
2024-12-21 3:38 ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2024-12-21 11:17 ` Konrad Dybcio
2024-12-26 16:22 ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2025-01-03 7:28 ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2025-01-03 11:48 ` Konrad Dybcio
2024-12-16 16:24 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2024-12-16 17:11 ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2024-12-16 17:35 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2024-12-16 17:52 ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2024-12-16 19:34 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2024-12-16 19:40 ` Keith Busch
2024-12-16 19:43 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2024-12-17 5:26 ` manivannan.sadhasivam
2024-12-17 19:45 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2024-12-19 8:02 ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2024-12-19 12:45 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2024-12-19 16:41 ` Ulf Hansson
2024-12-19 18:28 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2025-01-03 7:26 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-19 6:30 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-19 8:03 ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2024-12-09 14:43 ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2024-12-09 14:57 ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
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